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Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#702I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…
> It’s a bit tragic that Ilya and company achieved the exact opposite of what they intended apparently, by driving those they attempted to slow down into the arms of people with more money and less morals. Well. If they didn’t fire him, Altman will just continue to run hog wild over their charter. In that sense they lose either way. At least this way, OpenAI can continue to operate independently instead of being Micr…
How will they be able to continue doing their things without money?
It seems like people forget that it was the investors’ money that made all this possible in the first place.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#703All of the naysayers here seem convinced this is Altman and Microsoft looking to destroy OpenAI. Normally I am the cynic but this time I’m seeing a potential win-win here. Altman uses his talent to recruit and drive forward a brilliant product focused AI. OpenAI gets to refocus on deep research and safety. Put aside cynicism and consider Nadella is looking to create the best of all worlds for all parties. This might…
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that going forward there won’t be much investor interest in OpenAI. And if you separate out the products from OpenAI, that leaves the question of how an organization with extremely high compute and human capital costs can sustain itself. Can OpenAI find more billionaire benefactors to support it so that it can return to its old operating model?
Wouldn't all Microsoft competitors be interested in boosting OpenAI?
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#704I don't buy into the whole AGI hyper-hypewave, but on the off chance that we're somehow heading towards it with these fancy chatbots we have, what a depressing fucking outcome it's gonna be if Micro$oft of all things is the one in control of it. We really are entering the dystopia of the cartoonishly evil megacorp enslaving all of humanity to make the graph go up by 1.2%.
If they really build AGI (I doubt it), the AGI might be able to bring Microsoft under its control. This could be bad news for a lot of businesses.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#705All of the naysayers here seem convinced this is Altman and Microsoft looking to destroy OpenAI. Normally I am the cynic but this time I’m seeing a potential win-win here. Altman uses his talent to recruit and drive forward a brilliant product focused AI. OpenAI gets to refocus on deep research and safety. Put aside cynicism and consider Nadella is looking to create the best of all worlds for all parties. This might…
Reading the statement, I am doubtful that Microsoft and OpenAI can continue their business relationship. I think the most aggressive part of this is the "[they will be joining] together with colleagues" sub sentence. He is basically openly poaching the employees of a company that he supposedly has a very close cooperation with. This situation seems especially difficult since Microsoft basically houses all of openai's…
Because they need the chief scientist Ilya Sutskever. Microsoft's commercial interests will push them do whatever is needed to make it work.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#706Have to give it to Satya. There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI, but that isn't Satya's focus. The focus is on what he can do next. Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Give enough (cash) incentives and most of OpenAI employees would have no qua…
If there's one thing we should have learned over the last 45 years in this industry - it's never underestimate Microsoft.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#707Update, OpenAI employees are mass tweeting `OpenAI is nothing without its people`
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#708Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their alternative is to start a new AI company. At this point in time a new AI company would be bottle-necked by lack of NVIDIA GPUs. They are sold out for the medium term future. So if Sam and Greg were to start a new AI company, even with billions of initial capital (very likely given their street cred) they would spend at a minimum several months just acquiring the hardware needed to compete with OpenAI. With Micr…
They could get a infra deal with AWS, Google, NVidia or AMD even :-). Or they write the AI that runs on your M3 That said the Microsoft offer came quickly than Amazon can deliver a 3090 to your house so…
Would have been amazing if they joined Intel. No tsmc bottleneck, Intel probably having trouble offloading their arc gpus, etc
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#709It seems to me like there is one clear winner, Google, and everyone else lost a bit. Nevertheless Microsoft seems to have contained the damage as well as possible, again producing an outcome that is better for everyone from the position where they started after Friday.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#710I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…
"Morals" in the AI sphere seems to mean "restricting to AI to the esteemed few, for your safety". To me that sounds more likely to lead to cyberpunk corporate dominance than laissez-faire democratization
I realise it's strange to be claiming that a for-profit company is more likely to share AI than a nonprofit with "Open" in their name, yet that is the situation right now