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OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by x86x87 »

salad-tycoon wrote: post #676
meetpateltech wrote: post #568

Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce where the board would resign and he and Brockman would return. The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726055095341875545

Been reading up on the insight offered up on this site. Seems like a lot of these board members have deep ties around various organizations, governmental bodies, etc. and that seems entirely normal and probable. However, prior to chatgpt and dalle we, the public , had only been allowed brief glimpses into the current state of AI (eg Look this robot can sound like a human and book a reservation for you at the restaura…

I don't buy the whole the board is for safety and Sam is pushing too fast argument. This is just classic politics and backstabbing unless there is some serious wrongdoing in the middle that left the board with no option to fire the CEO.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by ergocoder »

no_wizard wrote: post #382
woeirua wrote: post #319

If the reports are true, and Ilya led the coup, then either him or Sam can be at OpenAI going forward but not both. The rest of the board members who sided with him are gone either way. Regardless of who ends up at the helm, OpenAI is going to be a different place on Monday than it was on Thursday, and not for the better.

Not for the better why? Obviously Sam wasn’t the best fit for OpenAI and investors aren’t even saying what the problem is. Clearly the board feels he was the wrong person for the job. I think it’s ridiculous that everything thinks that Sam being outed means OpenAI is in trouble. Let this play out and see how it evolves

They accused Sam of lying in a public statement when they don't have an evidence to back it up.

Those 4 people are not fit to run any company.

Not a single person asked: well hey what if somebody asks for an evidence of lying? Do we have one?

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by 38321003thrw »

meetpateltech wrote: post #568

Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce where the board would resign and he and Brockman would return. The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726055095341875545

These updates all seem to be coming from one side. Have they said anything at all?

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by abhinavk »

lordfrito wrote: post #680
chasd00 wrote: post #652

I think Microsoft is behind all of this. The “kumbaya let’s work together for humanity” Microsoft has been swapped out for the old Microsoft. Too much is at stake for them.

I read Nadella has threatened to turn off OpenAIs computers and would litigate the hell out of them to prevent the computers from being turned back on. Which is why the board is suddenly open to negotiation with Altman. Yeah, that's the Microsoft of old. Don't trust 'em. Bad news for OpenAI, and any hope that this stuff won't be used for evil.

It would be the same thing for which people are accusing the OpenAI board.

Play ball else we'll pull out wires off your cloud instances. Let's keep in mind Azure is the main cash cow of MS.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by chasd00 »

krashidov wrote: post #577
crop_rotation wrote: post #60

The board seems truly incompetent here and looking at the member list it doesn't seem very surprising. A competent board should have asked for legal and professional advice before taking a drastic step like this. Instead the board thought it was a boxing match and tried to deliver a knockout punch before the market closes with blunt language. This might be the most incompetent board for an organisation of this size.

Perhaps the AGI convinced the board to make a wild move like this as part of its first chess move

I’ve mused that an advanced AGI would probably become suicidal after dealing with humans for a while and realizing there’s no escape. Maybe this is an attempt.

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Post by TerrifiedMouse »

shmatt wrote: post #598

This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup. The board was Altmans boss - this is pretty much their only job. Altman knew this and most likely ignored any questions or concerns of theirs thinking he is the unfireable superstar Imagine if your boss fired you - and your response was - I’ll come back if you quit! Yeah, no. People might confuse status…

> This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup.

I think he stage his coup long ago when he took control of OpenAI making it “CloseAI” to make himself richer by effectively selling it to Microsoft. This is the people who believe in the original charter fighting back.

> The shareholders can fire the board, but that’s not what he’s asking for.

There are no shareholders in a non-profit if I’m right. The board effectively answers to no one. It’s take it or leave it kind of deal. If you don’t believe in OpenAI’s mission as stated in their charter, don’t engage with them.

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Post by kyle_grove »

itchy_spider44 wrote: post #648
silenced_trope wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The major investors whose money is on the line and who are funding the venture, Microsoft, Sequoia, and Khosla, were not given advanced warning or any input in to how this would impact their investment. I would definitely say the board screwed up. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2023/11/17/openai-in...

I'm surprised that none of these investors secured a board seat for themselves before handing over tens of billions. The board is closer to a friendship circle than a group of experienced business folks.

FOMO

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Post by [deleted] »

qwytw wrote: post #576
no_wizard wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for the better why? Obviously Sam wasn’t the best fit for OpenAI and investors aren’t even saying what the problem is. Clearly the board feels he was the wrong person for the job. I think it’s ridiculous that everything thinks that Sam being outed means OpenAI is in trouble. Let this play out and see how it evolves

> I think it’s ridiculous that everything thinks that Sam being outed means OpenAI is in trouble Even if we assume that's true, wouldn't the somewhat incompetent and seemingly unnecessarily dramatic way they handled not be a concerning sign?

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