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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#701

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

I appreciate your concerns. There are few other pretty shocking developments, too. If you check out this paper: "Sparks of AGI: Early experiments with GPT-4" at https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf , (an incredible, incredible document) and check out Section 10.1, you'd also observe that some researchers are interested in giving motivation and agency to these language models as well. "For example, whether intelligenc…

If it were cloning people and genetic research there would be public condemnation. For some reason many AI scientists are being much more lax about what is happening.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#702
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I know a large commercial entity will never do this, but I'd love to see a Sci-Hub plugin connected with the Wolfram plugin and whatever other plugins help to understand various realms of study. Imagine being able to ask ChatGPT to dig through research and answer questions based on those papers and theses.

It seems like you can very easily set up third party Plugins, maybe they'll be brave enough to let users install those (probably with copious warnings). AFAICT it only really requires you to enter the URL of the manifest, which would make sharing such plugins very easy

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#703

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is literally the opposite of spice, though. In Dune, spice is an inherently scarce resource that you control by controlling the sole place where it is produced through natural processes. Herbert himself was very clear that it was his sci-fi metaphor for oil. But AIs can be trained by anyone who has the data and the compute. There's plenty of data on the Net, and compute is cheap enough that we now have enthusiasts…

Regardless! The point is that whomever the Nation State is that has the most superior AI will control the world information. So, thanks for the explanation (which I know, otherwise I wouldn't have made the reference.)

I still don't see how it would control it. At best, it'd be able to use it more effectively.

The other aspect of the AI arms race is that the models are fundamentally not 100% controllable; and the smarter they are, the more that is true. Yet, ironically, making the most use out of them requires integrating them into your existing processes and data stores. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the nation-states with the best AIs will end up with their own elites being only nominally in charge.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#704

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

On the other hand, the level of effort to integrate a plugin into OpenAI's ecosystem looks to be extremely small, beyond the intrinsic effort to build a service that does something useful. (https://platform.openai.com/docs/plugins/getting-started/plu...).

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#705

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

We're getting really close to Neuromancer-style hacking where you have your AI try to fight the other person's AI.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#707

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Executing several hundred thousand trades at 8:31AM would indeed be impressive! Imagine what it could do when the market is open!

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#708

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The issue wasn't/isn't AI ethicists. It's their incentive model. They simply have trouble understanding how this helps their business. Same reason why Blockbuster found themselves behind Netflix, despite having clear visibility to watch Netflix slowly walk up and eat their lunch right in front of them.

Well, I'm curious, what is the business model of it? Just charge per 1k tokens or subscription? How do the plugins make money off this?

Two key ways

1. You use their services which makes them money (e.g. you're returned good flight info and book through chatgpt, they get commission)

2. You sell access to end users. The requests can be authenticated so you can give your paying users access to your stuff through an advanced natural language engine for the implementation cost of roughly adding a file explaining your APIs.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#709

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Yeah, I'd be really curious to hear how much people within OpenAI use their tools to create and ship their code. That would be quite a compelling testimony, and also help me feel more clear, because I've been quite confused at how quickly things have been going for them.

what makes you think they are leaders at applying the tech they create?

I've seen tweets that suggest they are using it, particularly, the prerelease GPT-4 was used internally.
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