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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

What is everyone up in arms for? This is a private company, so he can do whatever he wants. That is what everyone has been saying for years. I mean, it turns out they were wrong and Twitter was actually colluding with government agencies to bypass the first amendment. But censorship and targeted suspensions were defended tooth and nail by internet commenters. Is this a problem now only because people you like are tar…

> Is this a problem now only because people you like are targeted?

Yes, this is exactly the problem but in the opposite direction you are implying.

Musk believed that Twitter blocking the sharing of an article about ToS breaking behavior was worthy of the “Twitter Files” when the story was bad for his political opponent, but he thinks it is fine when the story is bad for him. It shows that he has no actual principled beliefs. He simply is acting in his own best interest.

Odds are people would be more willing to accept Elon’s rules if Elons’s rules weren’t a constantly moving target of whatever benefits him the most at this exact moment.

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Hate speech is far more tolerated on Twitter than on Mastadon. It’s not a free for all.

Doesn't that depend on the instance (with some not being as strict)? Regardless, such people could always decamp to their own servers - an option that was not available with Twitter. Also, volunteer instance admins will never have the resources Twitter has had to combat abuse.

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Not that this is a good defense, but I think "genuinely scared for his or his child's safety" is a real possibility. Especially if he (rightly or wrongly, no comment there) thinks someone threatened his child... well, protecting your children is one of the more powerful instincts humans have, one of the handful powerful enough to outweigh an ego like Elon's. Plus he has to be at least a little frazzled by Twitter hav…

> I think "genuinely scared for his or his child's safety" is a real possibility. I think he's scared for his own safety. In fact he has basically said as much. As rich as he is, he still owes a lot of money and favors to a lot of people. Some of them are quite powerful and ruthless. They're likely displeased at how he's pissing away the value of an asset in which they have an interest. Just because he's paranoid doe…

Internet nutjobs or people who have lost money investing in Tesla seem like more likely candidates to come after him.

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And why them being journalists make them any different? Does journalists deserve any better protection? Or if we think sensibly shouldn't they be held to highest possible standards. Like single mistake and they get a strike and with like two or three strike they are permanently out.

Journalism is a fundamental part of a well-functioning society.

They provide vital checks and balances against the government in charge.

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Echoing David Sacks, he's now tweeting that the journalists in question were tweeting 'assassination coordinates.' https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603587970832793600 Starting to think there might be some national security issues with one guy being the nominal linchpin of the US space program, satellite internet, and global public messaging infrastructure.

Full-on paranoia.

Honestly this is scary. Someone with a lot of power and sway over speech and other things getting paranoid that people are after him, and lashing out at any perceived threat is scary.

It would be scary if he didn't have half the power he currently holds.

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The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.

> They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. This is probably true, but it also describes Twitter prior to the takeover. If anything is clear to me, it's that it seems impossible to have a completely neutral/fair public forum. Or perhaps it is possible, but people dislike the opposition so much they aren't interested in using it.

But Twitter management weren't claiming to be free speech absolutists.

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The story https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Crocker%27s_Spite_Fe...

I am now wondering if the misspelling in the original post was an accident... or intentional. "Crocker" :D

An accident likely caused by too much Pulp. Too late to edit, but my mistake.

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I think it's a perfectly reasonable rule. Most of the reporting on where people go will not suffer from having a next-day delay on social media. Journalists who cover Bezos / Zuck / Elon full time can always constantly refresh ADS-B tracking websites, but that doesn't mean they have to be able to post live location tracking on Twitter.

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The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

_quickly scans comments_

uhhhh, no. Doesn't seem like they're having a reckoning. Will check back with next shoe drop.

Edit: I see 2 on this comment. Good for them.

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