It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness • Hacker News Board

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by deterministic » Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 2:26 AM UTC

fleddr wrote: post #535

The times we live in, utterly bizarre. Pre-internet, one would rarely be exposed to ideas that are extreme, unhinged, insane or downright weird. It would still happen but in moderation, for which I'll use the stereotype "village idiot". A village idiot is isolated for having off-base ideas and behavior, hence bad ideas don't take root. Now it's as if all the village idiots of the world had a meeting and started to ru…

The problem is that the internet enables the sociopaths, narcissists, power hungry etc. to easily spread their toxicity. And the internet rewards this behaviour by giving them attention.

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by asveikau » Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 2:59 AM UTC

fennecfoxy wrote: post #693

asveikau wrote: post #540

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I remember knowing a few people who had the stereotypical gay voice in high school or college, but did not talk about their sexuality, then lived as openly gay later on. So I don't think it always starts later in life, seems like it can even precede being out. A college girlfriend even chewed me out for assuming one of those guys was gay based on the voice, and insisted he was straight. I think he is out now. It woul…

As a not so fem gay man myself I don't really hear this in my own voice. I have heard it from some in the gay community and not from others. And in fact I have heard it in straight men, too - gaydar is a big mishmash of various observations - speaking in that voice can lead you to think someone might be gay but upon further examination, types of eye contact etc can show that they're not. I think stereotyping everyone…

You're right. It's not accurate all the time, it's a stereotype, it's misused to judge people, embracing it too much means losing sight of everyone's individuality.

Yet it has some cultural place and correlation. I think it's worthy of study by linguists or social scientists and so on.

I was finding it hard to talk about this without sounding offensive. As a straight guy I don't know how it reads to others.

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 3:02 AM UTC

int_19h wrote: post #682

andelink wrote: post #654

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This floors me. Can I ask the context in which this person was offended by the use of “they?” Was it a work setting? Tell me more about this person

It was a conversation in a private setting with several participants, some of whom were trans. It started as a broad conversation about which pronouns should be properly used when. When we got to "they", one of the participants brought up a common pattern whereby people will use "he" or "she" consistently to refer to cis people whose gender they know, but "they" when they need to refer to trans people (with known mor…

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Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by el_nahual » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 3:46 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #562

el_nahual wrote: post #503

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"limitless indulgence of the appetites and desires" has a different word. That's not freedom , that's called debauchery and has absolutely nothing to do with "liberalism" in the political science meaning of the term.

The more apt words would be hedonist/libertine.

right! I was struggling to translate "libertine" into the noun related to the act itself. ie, free -> freedom; hedonist -> hedonism; libertine -> ?

In romance languages there's a word "libertinaje", but the best translation I could find into english was debauchery which I agree has too many connotations of "partying." Wantonness perhaps?