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The end of the manual transmission is near?

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Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#702

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> reasonably sized as in the 50s and 60s. Fire all your designers, go back to whatever your models were in 1965 What alternate dimension are you from? My older brother had a 60's Ford Fairlane when I was growing up. My first car was a 67 mustang. I had a friend with a 68 Camaro. I knew someone else that had multiple Thunderbirds from that era. These were not small cars. The Mustang and Camaro were the size of a full…

I believe that's what the OP is requesting: larger, more spacious cars.

And also: heavier, less fuel efficient, and more dangerous cars.

Basically, OP is "graciously" willing to give up his manual transmission if we provide him a car that suits his style and comfort at the expense of everyone else.

Luckily for us, he isn't able to find one.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#703

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Saying they aren’t manual can be misleading. F1 and rally cars have automatic clutching but they certainly gear up and down manually.

There’s nothing misleading about it. Shift paddles are pretty standard on cars with automatic gearboxes. The only difference is that outside of sports cars “consumer” gearboxes will usually restrict the range they’ll let you use with semi-automatic shifting and will override that if you redline or bottom out.

F1 cars will not automatically shift gears though. That's the defining feature of automatic transmission.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#704
2 years ago, I bought a slightly used Tacoma. I looked for months to find a light pickup truck with a manual transmission. In theory, there were a couple of models from two manufacturers available with a manual, but in reality, I couldn't find one on a lot. In the used market, it was maybe one in fifty. I held out until I found one, because I knew that this would be my last chance to drive a manual, and more than likely the last ICE vehicle I would ever purchase. Just a nostalgia thing, for me. I learned to drive in a 53 Jimmy 3/4 ton pickup with a straight 6 ICE and 4 on the floor transmission, and have never been able to really like automatics, particularly for my farm truck. Electric trucks were not really available or even close to work tested when I needed the new vehicle, so it had to be ICE, and since it was going to my last such vehicle, I just wanted the manual.

And I like it. I'll miss it when it gets replaced by an electric truck, even though the latter will be over all a much better vehicle.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#705
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What's missing is that those "worksite" trucks should require a special commercial drivers license and extra testing for the professional drivers who drive them, same as big rigs. And not be allowed for non-work trips like driving to school.

This is a really good idea that I have not heard before. It can also be introduced with new vehicle registrations so as not to bring out the pitchforks. Anyone with a truck can keep going, but next purchase, they need to do a driving test. I can't imagine parents paying for their kids to do the extra course if it costs them a fraction of that for their kid to drive a regular sedan. You need to do a pilot study to see…

I’m not so sure that would keep the pitchforks away.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#706

> it’s not something you master overnight. I’m not ashamed to mention that it took me a few sessions in a parking lot to get the fundamentals down This kind of line always confuses me. I mean, I remember my first driving lesson in the UK. Guy arrived in a BMW 116, manual. He said to me: what is there to explain, you get in and drive. So I got in and drove. Did my first hour, took 5 minutes to get comfortable with the…

How hilly was it where you learned to drive? Starting on a steep incline is the tricky part. If you are on mostly flat roads or have a car with hill assist it becomes much easier.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#707

Manual transmissions are dead. I grew up learning to drive a manual transmission car. Awesome. I loved the feeling of driving and shifting gears up the hilly, mountainous, twisty horrible roads in Jamaica. Exhilarating! But cars got better. I got older, and now automatic transmissions are so much more efficient than manual transmissions * for ordinary people *. We're not talking about people who love driving here. We…

> People who just want to commute and relax.

Honestly, it kind of feels like we're not that far away from cars with steering wheels and gas pedals being the oddity.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#708

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Insanity in one sentence.

Indeed, it should be the actual use that governs this. If you use it as a passenger vehicle, it's a passenger vehicle. If you use it on a farm then it's a farm vehicle.

There's already special registration for farm vehicles in a lot of states. The taxes are lower and that's one of the few cases where you can use pink diesel, which is also taxed differently.

Trucks used as passenger vehicles are already more expensive to register and run than farm vehicles.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#709
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I finally had to switch to a slushbox for family reasons. Driving is less fun, but it gets the job done. One thing that's neat though, that a stickshift can never do, is automatic engine braking. Driving along on cruise control, if a long downhill is encountered, the car will shift down to engine brake. That's cool.

> Driving along on cruise control, if a long downhill is encountered, the car will shift down to engine brake. That's cool. You can also downshift in a manual...

Of course! But the cruise control on a stick shift can't do that, and it's a cool feature.
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