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Should we apply the same standards to the obese? Arguably a greater strain on our health care system.
I don't know, is there a free two-shot regimen to help deal with obesity? Also, last time I checked, hospitals weren't running out of ICU beds thanks to obesity.
The case against masks at school
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Re: The case against masks at school
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I think if we're supposed to treat the position against vaccination being effective as "not stupid", we ought to hear reasons why that is.
My point is that if you insinuate that anyone who holds that position is stupid through sarcasm and snarky comments, you are never going to hear those reasons, because no one will want to engage with you.
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Because if you're unvaccinated you're much more likely to require hospitalization should you get Covid. The impact to others is the unvaccinated are consuming medical resources and causing burn-out amongst medical practitioners.
We dont make this distinction with the vast majority of personal choices. Obesity causes a ton of strain on our health system. Should we start a class system based on BMI?
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Whether people currently wear a particular type doesn’t indicate whether they are effective. If people knew that they actually are effective , more would wear them.
If only the CDC had not flip flopped on their mask guidance caused a complete erosion of institutional trust.
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> If screaming Karens are going to insist on in person learning In defense of the Karens (ew, I feel gross even typing that) remote learning absolutely was the disaster they say it was. It was really, really bad. It's hard to exaggerate how bad it was. And I mean specifically for the kids, not for the parents (it also sucked for them/us, obviously). We can probably recover well-enough from a semester or two of it, bu…
No. It wasn't that bad. School still continued. Your children are at most slightly inconvenienced during a global pandemic that has killed MILLIONS of people. All you have to do is keep your kid looking at a screen. They may need to repeat a year of school. At some point in their future your kids boss may say "oh right, you were a pandemic kid, here let me show you." It's like someone in WW2 UK complaining that the G…
Universal education is supposed to be the great equaliser. I can't imagine the current state of remote learning achieves that, so I'm somewhat sympathetic to the people who push for schools to re-open in-person. I don't think it's worth people dying over, though, especially given that the qualifications are more important than the stuff you learn in school.
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Is there a massive infection rate? My kid’s elementary school sends an email with the count of positive test results in the school each week. It seems like it’s consistently under 1% per week. (Typically 1-4 people testing positive in a city K-5 school, students and staff being tested.)
Our school has seemed to do OK keeping it from spreading between kids. But they also do weekly testing. And did surveillance testing at the end of winter break, which kept about 15% of the school's students at home for the first week back because they had covid. This statistic was also consistent with LA Unified surveillance testing after winter break - about 15%. Before winter break, some parents of 2nd graders had…
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It is endemic. Its everywhere. Its mutating. Humanity has never stopped the spread of similar coronaviruses and even if we could the death rate/risk is not bad enough to justify the cost (this isnt smallpox/polio) We have vaccines. They don’t stop you from getting it or transmitting it. They do lower probability of the vaccinated person getting severe/fatal covid. Clearly a personal health decision that should not be…
Not endemic. Will you accept a formal assessment of endemicity from a PI at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization? See as of two weeks ago: https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/14808999541638635... Not interested in playing word games. Words mean things. Get over it. > [Vaccines] don’t stop you from getting [COVID] or transmitting it. This is a harmful framing. What ultimately matters is Rt and adequa…
We lock down society for a relatively benign virus whose more extreme outcomes are mostly ameliorated by vaccines and therapies?
I am all for you encouraging people to vaccinate but if they don’t then that is their choice. (Me: triple vaxxed and still got covid 2x)
There a millions of preventable deaths of many kinds every year. Why is this cause special (now today, not with our previous situation in 2020)
Also: An endemic disease is a disease that is always present in a particular population/region. Ex. Flu, malaria, HIV, syphilis, and… COVID
(When they do declare this an endemic next month do I get a prize?)
Additionally we have never eliminated a coronavirus before. This isn’t smallpox/polio.
Re: The case against masks at school
#708Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If screaming Karens are going to insist on in person learning In defense of the Karens (ew, I feel gross even typing that) remote learning absolutely was the disaster they say it was. It was really, really bad. It's hard to exaggerate how bad it was. And I mean specifically for the kids, not for the parents (it also sucked for them/us, obviously). We can probably recover well-enough from a semester or two of it, bu…
No. It wasn't that bad. School still continued. Your children are at most slightly inconvenienced during a global pandemic that has killed MILLIONS of people. All you have to do is keep your kid looking at a screen. They may need to repeat a year of school. At some point in their future your kids boss may say "oh right, you were a pandemic kid, here let me show you." It's like someone in WW2 UK complaining that the G…
Think about it, what are the reasons making close supervision of school-aged children desirable? Their brains are still growing and developing! They often aren’t mature enough to be academically successful when they’re physically isolated and stuck on a shitty google hangout.
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#709As ever, another pro Covid article makes it to the front page. As ever, HN falls over itself to demonstrate ignorance and selfishness. Meanwhile Covid continues killing and maiming. The butcher's bill for this our collective failure is going to be hard reading. Shame on us all.
just having a laugh in this crazy new dimension of ours
Re: The case against masks at school
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No, Covid is low risk if you are vaccinated and elderly/at risk and extremely low risk if you are younger (vaccinated or not) It’s endemic. Its not going away. We are all going to get it. (Me: triple vaxxed, had covid 2x) Getting vaccinated is a personal heath decision (which I encourage) Time to move on.
Polio used to be endemic in the USA and now it has been eradicated.
We have no chance with current medical tech of eliminating a highly mutagenic coronavirus. Even if we did the cost/benefit of doing so would not be adequate.