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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by zemvpferreira »

acomjean wrote: post #187
kisamoto wrote: post #57

I think normally I'd look for the Pixel or the iPhone but my next purchase will be supporting FairPhone. When I think about how powerful I need my phone to be I don't need the best. I want something I can fix and update myself; something that's supported for more than a couple of years; something that is a little "better" for the planet. Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?

>Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices? As someone with an years old iPhone 6, I haven't once said, I wish this phone was faster. Maybe a better camera would be nice, but that's about it. Maybe with the ability to plug a phone into a screen and keyboard and use it as a computer (As is starting to happen) I'd want more power but right now I'm good as long as my battery is holding. I just wi…

I just upgraded from an iPhone 6s to a lightly used 2020 SE for around $300 and I have to say, I didn't get it till I got it.

I don't take photos and browsing hacker news is probably the most computing-intensive thing I do on my phone, but I'm really enjoying the longer battery life and general responsiveness of the new device. I kinda wish I'd upgraded sooner.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by PennRobotics »

pphysch wrote: post #509
adventured wrote: post #449

That camera band - sand bar, whatever the hell it is - is one of the most atrocious smartphone designs I've ever seen. Extraordinarly stupid on the part of the designers. Phone designs should be pursuing a flush camera segment design, not an approach of how obnoxiously can we make that part of the phone stick out from the rest.

You don't use phone cases, I take it?

If the phone is supposed to have a case and a flush back, the manufacturer should build the phone with a non-detachable case and a flush back.

Don Norman would be disappointed.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by zibzab »

Covzire wrote: post #518
standardUser wrote: post #513

I couldn't wait any longer so I purchased a very expensive Samsung S21 Ultra ($1200) because no Google phone could lure me away from my fading Pixel 2 XL. My mistake, because the Samsung phone had preloaded software that took considerable effort to remove (more than most people could/would deal with). It wasn't the software itself that bothered me, but rather that there were notifications for apps I don't use that I…

I want to like Samsung, and I used to have an S III and it was great in it's day but they need to step up with their security updates. They provide 3-years of updates now I think which is better than they used to be, but for a lot of security-minded people I think a portable computer with a lot of sensitive personal data is pretty much obsolete the moment the critical security updates stop coming. For me that means I…

Actually, I think it's 4 or 5 years, depending on Android Enterprise eligibility

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by zibzab »

astronautjones wrote: post #581
koyote wrote: post #556

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might be a long shot, but I once thought my USB-C port was broken but it turned out that all that happened was that fluff and dust/dirt was lodged inside and the cable no longer went in all the way. The fix was to slowly scrape all the fluff out with a needle (I am sure there are better ways). This is of course assuming your issue isn't anything electronic.

don't use metal to do that! use compressed air

Just use a toothpick

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by summm »

gniv wrote: post #433
fomine3 wrote: post #404

Pixel 6 207g weight is horrible. Pixel 5 is just 151g so this is huge jump. I wish smartphone manufacturers stop adding unnecessary weights for premium (like glass back). Pixel 6 Pro 210g is fine compared to non-Pro.

Agree, but a lot of people seem to not care. The iPhone 13 pro is 204g. The max is 240g.

they care but the other way round: if the device is made out of lightweight and stable high-tech plastic, they complain it feels and locks cheap, and they hate that, regardless if the plastic would be superior to metal, glass or ceramic in almost any way. As always, the mainstream is much more guided by their emotions and sense of status than rationality.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by schwartzworld »

rumblerock wrote: post #333
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

As a former Pixel user that switched because I broke the phone and had an extra iPhone in the family, there are a number of reasons I'm heavily considering switching back (had been an Android user since 2009). 1. Spam call screening is nonexistent on the iPhone, and T-Mobile's blocker still lets a ton of them through. In my prior experience Google did a much better job in this department. It would be nice to pick up…

> I find FaceID annoying

I have the pixel 4 which has face id. I loved it for the 6 months that I had the phone before we all started wearing masks everywhere. Now it's a completely useless feature.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by coz131 »

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #439
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

One doesn't have to dream. Flashing a rom on google-branded phones is so simple, a non-tech person can follow a 5min youtube video to do it. The Nexus 6 from 2014 can have the latest android running on it - not just security updates. And unlike an iphone, it has a build that disables some eyecandy that keeps it actually usable and fast. As I understand it if you run the last supported ios on an iphone 5s, with all th…

It does not matter if it is a 5 min youtube video, that just wont happen to the majority of the population. Most people can't even change their battery in their car.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by summm »

phh wrote: post #228
_xy8h wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger problem with Qualcomm is that they're primarily the reason why devices only got a two year span of updates and poor support. Each board built for each phone still had to get the software support starting with Qualcomm before it could be built with new source for updates. Outside that 2 year window, every device OEM had to support the hardware themselves. That's why new phones with older SOCs never got any…

> The bigger problem with Qualcomm is that they're primarily the reason why devices only got a two year span of updates and poor support. All Pixels running Qualcomm got Android N+3. Pixels running Tensor will get, let me check the announcement, ah yes, Android N+3.

What are you talking about? Pixel 2 was releases Oct 2017, end of support was Dec 2020. So, about 3 years. Pixel 1 was the same, 3 years. For the later ones, still supported, let's see. Tensor based ones will get at least 5 years.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by quitit »

marcellus23 wrote: post #26
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

The person arguing with you has misinterpreted how Photos works, the information you have provided is correct - they are merely surfaced in the Photos app and the software provides the user the option to save them to their library. Sometimes users on this site play dumb or falsely represent the facts for the sake of their argument.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by summm »

haukem wrote: post #211
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how open source works in SoC design. In fact it doesn't work at all an here's why: Google hasn't made the SoC and doesn't own the IP, it most likely bought a bunch of IP blocks from established vendors like Cadence, Synopys, Samsung, etc and fused them together to create a SoC. All those IPs come with their own license terms and NDAs that limit what you can do with it. You can use it in your final product…

I haven't see this as a problem, but I am working for a consumer network equipment semiconductor company. I haven't worked with graphics drivers which could be different. Normally we get the driver code from Cadence and Synopsys under a permissive license, it can be integrated in what ever you want. The documentation and especially the RTL is under strict NDA. This driver code is often very self contained and does no…

"right amount of money" does not mean what it actually costs to write proper drivers, but the amount that Qualcomm expects to earn less when people buy smartphones less often, which is probably much larger.
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