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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Requiring an account to use the Microsoft Store sounds completely fine to me.

How do you use an android phone without installing applications?

You don't need to use the play store to install applications on Android.

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> * Support for Android apps built into the OS (using Intel Bridge technology whatever that is?) Interesting, why would they do that? I mean it's nice ;) but, is this the new MS mobile strategy? Android?

I believe Apple is working on getting iOS apps working in future versions of Mac OS. Microsoft being able to run Android apps in Windows is probably in part a response to that.

You can already install iOS apps in the current version of macOS, but only on Apple Silicon machines and app developers can decide whether their apps show up on the Mac App Store.

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

All the anti-linux comments from people who tried it 15 years ago talking about how windows "just works" not looking so justified now. Thankful I use linux today. While linux has issues this in particular is one thing I don't have to worry about.

Not really, hidpi, multidpi, fractional scaling are the new Linux "sound cards", in the sense that buying modern screens and expecting them to work under Linux is an act of gambling. For example, for fractional scaling you probably end up using (broken for many drivers) raster scaling in xrandr, which is resource intensive and (being a raster operation on top of font rendering!) poor quality. But, hey, there is Wayland, you say. Well, Wayland does the same, maybe with slightly better performance because of some technical nuances, but still essentially the same, since it doesn't support fractional scales: just render everything to the next higher integer scale, then downscale using a brutal raster operation. This is the standard we have been waiting for a decade now and it's not only that its adoption and its support for important features are still far from what's required, it's also that it has design shortcomings that it's probably too late to change now. At least at fractional scales, I suspect that Qt, browsers and other rendering engines that already supported it (GTK being the conspicuous absence here) won't see any improvement but a loss of font rendering quality in the future. Now look at most of the current offer of budget laptops: FHD 13-14'' screens, good enough for most people, poorly supported in Linux even if Wayland was now shinning at its brightest, which is far from real. Not to talk about the poor fellow that wants to plug his cheap external FHD screen or, worse, that shiny new UHD screen that costed her hard earned money. The mishmash of scales a typical modern setup like this requires is too much for Linux and will be for the foreseeable future. I'd like Linux fans to be more responsible with their advice since Linux desktop is actually an expensive hobby for people with time, money and technical savvy.

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I bet the TPM isn’t 2.0. I was hoping buying into AM4 would mean I could keep this board longer too, but the but the 5xxx chips aren’t compatible with the original chipset. My machine is super fast, but I guess unless I feel like staying on insider (which will have the TPM requirement patched out for the next little while according to MS), I’ll need to upgrade sooner than I planned.

I don't think the problem is the TPM. I am running a Ryzen 2200G (1st gen Zen) on an Asus Tuf B450M-Pro S. I have fTPM (firmware TPM) enabled in the BIOS. My Windows 10 detects a running TPM 2.0. I just ran the MS "PC Health Check", and it tells me "This PC cannot run Windows 11" . This is a brand new machine. I built it 2 months ago. It was the only Ryzen APU available to buy online here in Brazil! Bummer.

You need secureboot,GPT partition table as well

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Anyone has a good guess why Microsoft needed to bump the version? All of these updates seems something that can be easily updated to Windows 10 in several or one half year update. Is this something related to it's corporate clients or licensing services? Really can't understand why a need to create a new version with so much hype, when they've announced in the past that W10 will be the last Windows version.

I am certain that they said 10 was to be the final version of Windows. On the strength of that I decided I didn't want 10 so my only option was to jump ship (to Linux). I wonder how many others did? Saying that I doubt I would want 11 either, but that's academic now.

Didn't you read the fine print? They said Windows 10 would be the last Windows ever with a version number less than or equal to 10. :P
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