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Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by dreamcompiler »

throwanem wrote: post #603
PoignardAzur wrote: post #551

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I wish you saw more absurd situations like this in cyberpunk stories. This mixture of trying to help the consumer to boost your image and sabotaging your own consumer-friendly process to drive up revenue is what late-stage capitalism is all about.

It's wild that Douglas Adams' and Infocom's Bureaucracy , an interactive fiction published in 1987, had precisely this sort of thing as more or less its whole subject matter. It's not quite exact to what we see today, of course; for one thing, it traffics in paper forms and mail-in cards, rather than web forms and obstructionist live chats. But its juxtaposition of saccharine platitudes and hostile apathy feels no le…

I think Brazil did a better job of this than The Fifth Element, but yeah, I'd love to read/see more modern equivalents. Recommendations welcome.

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Post by temp8964 »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #560
Fuzzwah wrote: post #516

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I'm an outsider to US politics (in that I'm Australian), but I'm really interested to know what widely held "left" views you think are "incorrect"? The topics I understand as being pushed by the left in the US just seem so centerist to me, based on the political landscape that I'm living in. Single payer health care, minimum wage increases, increases in social support nets... So many topics I'd love to hear the argum…

The minimum wage increase that Biden is pushing for is radical . He wants a 15$/hour minimum wage, which if I believe Wikipedia would be the highest minimum wage in the world right now. Not saying that's a bad thing, but I think it would qualify as left-wing in most countries. Agreed about social safety nets and most other policies. Sometimes it feels Americans don't realize how uniquely chaotic and inefficient their…

More economists agree it will increase unemployment per IGM survey https://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/the-us-minimum-wage/

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by eppsilon »

xkeysc0re wrote: post #631
eplanit wrote: post #593

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Its brand is about all it has going for it. It's the IBM of journalism. We like to think it's still a leader, but we're kidding ourselves in doing so.

I had this thought the other day - what was the last big story the NYT broke that wasn't Trump related in some way? Like, actual investigative work whether in local governments or in other countries. I can't think of a single significant story that the NYT itself broke and led the charge on

FWIW, they won a Pulitzer for this investigative story about NYC taxi drivers: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/nyregion/nyc-taxis-medall...

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by disease »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #526
chmod600 wrote: post #278

I just cancelled and it was relatively painless, to their credit. When they asked the reason, I said that political coverage was unfair. Left is OK, unfair is not. I don't consider myself "on the left" but I really don't mind a publication being left of center or right of center. If it's good, I will pay for it (I subscribed tp The Atlantic at least twice, and the New Yorker once, and probably others in a mix of prin…

Journalists are pretty honest about what they do if you listen to them talk candidly about their profession. It's not really about reporting reality or facts it's more they see themselves are a class above the regular people who have a moral obligation to make sure we think and believe the right things we're supposed to for what they consider the greater good. Not saying if that's the right thing to do or not but per…

What proof do you have of these accusations?

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Post by jxy »

This is the reason we need journalism. Somebody posted something on an image posting website and all the comments on HN go one way. Why is it so easy to manipulate people these days? Is HN going the same way as twitter, FB, or other SOCIAL sites?

I just canceled NYT's subscription, and it took two messages. 1. I want to cancel. 2. I don't want your discount.

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Post by Bud »

xkeysc0re wrote: post #631
eplanit wrote: post #593

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its brand is about all it has going for it. It's the IBM of journalism. We like to think it's still a leader, but we're kidding ourselves in doing so.

I had this thought the other day - what was the last big story the NYT broke that wasn't Trump related in some way? Like, actual investigative work whether in local governments or in other countries. I can't think of a single significant story that the NYT itself broke and led the charge on

If you think this, you clearly don't read the NYT regularly.

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Post by zo1 »

Fuzzwah wrote: post #516
jb775 wrote: post #353

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> they want to persuade me to hold a set of opinions Glad more people are realizing this. It's harder to spot/acknowledge for people on the left since the biased coverage feeds into their worldview...in my opinion it's artificially solidified their confidence on how "correct" they feel they are about political topics. The next step in this realization is nothing to do with one-sided reporting, it's the massive scale…

I'm an outsider to US politics (in that I'm Australian), but I'm really interested to know what widely held "left" views you think are "incorrect"? The topics I understand as being pushed by the left in the US just seem so centerist to me, based on the political landscape that I'm living in. Single payer health care, minimum wage increases, increases in social support nets... So many topics I'd love to hear the argum…

What do you mean by incorrect? Because you're asking us to prove/argue that Left policies are incorrect. By correct/incorrect do you mean:

Moral/Immoral?

Right/Wrong?

Fair/Unfair?

If we can agree on judging policies, platforms, ideologies and beliefs on a shared set of criteria, then we can move forward, otherwise we're just shouting at each-other.

You can tell me all day long that it's fair for me to get my stuff taken away without my consent by an entity because I got born within it's "borders"; but that won't make it fair for me within my moral framework, irrespective of how much I deplore the suffering of the poor and unfortunate and want to help them.

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

In France I am sending an email to the company, and then cancel my direct debit agreement. Total 5 minutes.

Of course you may have timing requirements (engagement for X months, or cooldown period, ...) but beside that it is very simple.

Once you cancel the direct debit, the bank is not allowed to send money anymore and it is now a problem between you and the company if they do not get paid.

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