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GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Are there any claims in that post?

I'm not making claims, if that's what you mean. The burden of proof is on the person I was replying to.

There is no burden of proof on anyone. The person was simply explaining a concept, known as a short squeeze.

A short squeeze is a well known financial concept. It is not a claim. It is a concept.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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There are 100 cows. A hedge-fund believes that the milk consumption will go to zero, so they borrow the 100 cows for one month and sell them for $1 each. Then they borrow them again, and sell them once more for 90c. Certain that they will worth $0 at the end of the month A Redditor notices this. She knows that in a month's time, the hedge-fund will have to buy 200 cows, and there are only 100 available. Her plan is s…

> Then they borrow them again, and sell them once more for 90c IANAL but I believe this is actually illegal and if so the hedge funds are in the red for doing this

There's really not any other way to get to shorted at 150% of the float, which was the GME reality. So... yes, likely illegal things happened by the hedge funds. Will the SEC investigate or fine them for it? Probably not, they'll probably get a(nother) bailout instead.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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The assumption that this is a bunch of robin hood everyday-man sorts conspiring on Reddit seems incredibly naive. The GameStop play (as with BBB, AMC, Express, etc) are classic pump and dumps, albeit with a short-squeeze magnifier (basically equal to a DDOS amplification). And if you really traced back to the origin, I highly doubt you're going to find some Joe Nobody -- you're going to find some very well financed,…

> you're going to find some very well financed, planned player. You're going to find Dr. Michael Burry. He started buying GameStop under his Scion Capital shop back in June 2020, and /u/DeepFuckingValue on Reddit / Roaring Kitty on YouTube made the case for GameStop as far back as June of 2019. EDIT: Corrected "Mr." to "Dr.". Corrected the timeline of DFV / Roaring Kitty to the correct dates.

*Dr.

He got started trading his MD earnings and posting a blog about it.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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The part that's understated is that the short sellers engage in their own broadcasting - and no one ever REALLY knows whether to trust them. Citron Research and Muddy Waters and these others post, places like CNBC re-tweet, Bloomberg mentions it, etc. And that has a predictable effect, or an effect that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't know if the David and Goliath story that played out here (if it is even reall…

It wasn't David vs. Goliath. CNBC, Financial Times, WSJ, etc. can't tell you what it really was, because they're beholden to all these Wall Street types. They don't get stories unless their relationships are cordial. This was arrogant idiot billionaires vs. autistic retards of the Internet, and the arrogant billionaires in this case (Melvin Capital) had the chance to walk away when they got their $2.75 billion capita…

didn’t Melvin already cover?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstocks/gamestop-short-sel...

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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What are the "fundamentals" of bitcoin? The only varying metric it has is the denomination you measure it in. Whether that is Venezuelan Bolivars or USD. Everything else is set in stone.

The fundamentals of bitcoin are illegal drug deals and money laundering. We can argue over how much that's worth, given the volume of BTC, and difficulty of the necessary conversion back to currency that banks/landlords/cafes/etc will accept, but that's not zero.

I don’t think that’s accurate anymore. Bitcoin ten years ago was like the www in 1995. Now we have DeFi which runs on crypto. DeFi is to banks what e-commerce was to retail stores in 2000.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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There are 100 cows. A hedge-fund believes that the milk consumption will go to zero, so they borrow the 100 cows for one month and sell them for $1 each. Then they borrow them again, and sell them once more for 90c. Certain that they will worth $0 at the end of the month A Redditor notices this. She knows that in a month's time, the hedge-fund will have to buy 200 cows, and there are only 100 available. Her plan is s…

Wait until someone figures out how to automate this for small small small investors. Distribute across millions of Redditors

Bot traders for bitcoin/crypto already exist for purchase.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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You're forgetting the stock is 125% over shorted. There literally isn't enough stock for shorts to cover their current positions. That's why there is potential for infinite, (huge) gains as long as everyone holds.

What I've been wondering is, why do people think the 125% over-shorted has to expire all at the same time and imminently? While there isn't 125% available to buy in one go, there is trading happening, HedgeFund2 can be buying and returning their loaned shares this week, HedgeFund3 can be buying and returning theirs next week, HedgeFund4 the week after, and at no point does any group need to buy 125% of available shar…

It's not that there is an expiration date, but instead that there is a collateral requirement for holding short positions in addition to the interest. As the shorted stock increases in value, the borrower must post additional collateral or close out their position. If the collateral requirements exceed the fund's capital then they'll be forced to close.

Further, all hedge funds have internal risk limits, which include limits of their exposure to a single equity. Should the collateral requirements exceed this limit, then their internal risk compliance team will ensure that the short position be at least partially closed to keep them within their limits.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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> you're going to find some very well financed, planned player. You're going to find Dr. Michael Burry. He started buying GameStop under his Scion Capital shop back in June 2020, and /u/DeepFuckingValue on Reddit / Roaring Kitty on YouTube made the case for GameStop as far back as June of 2019. EDIT: Corrected "Mr." to "Dr.". Corrected the timeline of DFV / Roaring Kitty to the correct dates.

DFV was buying GME since 2019 june though and he was making text based case long before June 2020.

Indeed, I got my dates wrong. Thank you for the correction!

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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> you're going to find some very well financed, planned player. You're going to find Dr. Michael Burry. He started buying GameStop under his Scion Capital shop back in June 2020, and /u/DeepFuckingValue on Reddit / Roaring Kitty on YouTube made the case for GameStop as far back as June of 2019. EDIT: Corrected "Mr." to "Dr.". Corrected the timeline of DFV / Roaring Kitty to the correct dates.

*Dr. He got started trading his MD earnings and posting a blog about it.

That's right... I actually thought I had typed "Dr.". Strange! I'll make the correction.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Whenever a human places a trade, the counterparty is almost always an algorithm or some kind of automated market maker

But behind the algorithm there is a human trader with motivations and market knowledge who is commanding it; the fact that the buyer is, in some technical sense, an algorithm doesn't seem very relevant to me.

You'd think that, but even simple algorithms exhibit complex emergent behavior when exposed to the real world.

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