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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by beerandt »

grawprog wrote: post #526

>In a press release announcing the decision, Twilio revealed which services Parler was using. This information allowed hackers to deduct that it was possible to create users and verified accounts without actual verification. >With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allow…

Yea, there's no reason 70TB of downloaded data and millions of user accts (with each requiring an additional attack iteration) were needed to prove a security weakness.

Let alone the creation of a coordinated, decentralized network of machines to exploit the attack and maximize data extraction.

"Security Researchers"

The doublespeak is getting maddening.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by BlueTemplar »

0xy wrote: post #621
BlueTemplar wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They sided against the US government (and with Russia) years ago.

Except the over 70,000 documents and leaks about the Russian government on Wikileaks right now. This argument is absolute nonsense given that fact.

Well, since it was years ago, it's possible that they have reversed course since then. They disappointed me a lot, and I didn't keep up with them after that...

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by stjohnswarts »

joshstrange wrote: post #641
sdenton4 wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...

Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...

Is there something in reddit "bylaws" that says any post has to be accepted in a group that meant specifically for a certain group "/r/..." ? I thought moderators could allow/disallow whatever they wanted as long as it doesn't violate TOS or is illegal? I have seen the same thing in more left leaning, women's rights, or whatever. Am I missing something in your complaint? That said all that the_donald/conservative/etc is a dumpster fire.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by andromeduck »

tomp wrote: post #471
liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

Based on the screenshot you linked to, their "moderation" categories are "spam", "ads", "impersonation", "defamation", "nudity", "pornography", "illegal", "terrorism", "trademark" and "threat". Can you please explain how they use that to "ensure ideological conformity in their posts"?

Is there a legal reason to have defamation up there? It seems like a pretty funny one to have for a free speech platform - the others are more understandable.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by hertzrat »

liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

It’s not that what you said is untrue, but those posts are just screenshots of moderation and reward tools, not necessarily ideological conformity tools. It reminds me of quora [1] and some other sites that used to pay too posters as a way of driving site-wide engagement (sort of a way to buy users to get network effects going, like Uber eats offering free deliveries during Covid to get more users)

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18742484

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by JBSay »

liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

As opposed to what? Twitter? All social media platforms are ideologically moderated.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by stjohnswarts »

hef19898 wrote: post #691
joshstrange wrote: post #641

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...

I am slowly suspecting that being capable of tremendous levels of cognitive disoance, without realizing it, is one of the common denominators of radicals. Quite obvious in right wingers, but I wouldn't exclude others, I just saw it more at the right end of the political spectrum.

I think what you're looking for individuals that think "I believe" without any proof at all is a valid "reason" for doing whatever they like as long as they "believe" it. It is proof against any science or logical reasoning because "I believe" is the only level of verification they need to follow a group/tyrant/whatever.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by [deleted] »

salawat wrote: post #296
djtriptych wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rules are different when the democracy is at stake, as this country's history should have taught you.

Yeahhh... No. A good half the problems in the world are created when we try to force oversized round pegs through undersized square holes. Besides which, was Parler not the site that required excessive amounts of personal info just to sign up? That means if authentication failed open, that could mean that this researcher has obtained access to reams of PII. Which they'll deny or state that of courae they didn't colle…

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by AnHonestComment »

jtbayly wrote: post #694
Miner49er wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The person who did this calls themselves a hacker. It's just whoever wrote this article that decided to call them a "security researcher".

In other words, the media really is as liberal as is claimed by some? How does that change things? The article calls them security researchers. In the title ! Isn't that an example of something that HN is tacitly acknowledging to be true by leaving the title alone?

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