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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by hnracer »

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #644
dukeofdoom wrote: post #420

If we don't have a meaningful signature match, than we don't have a meaningful way to prevent fraud with mail in ballots. Period. Bad ballot Rejection rate of 6% in previous election to now 0.02%, with mail in ballots. Mismatched signatures resulted in a rejection for only 0.02% of all absentee ballots cast. How is that even possible. They counted almost everything. For those of you that think its unfair to reject ba…

> How is that even possible. It's not true. This is a myth that's been spreading online about Georgia absentee ballots. Long story short: * The 6% number from 2016 comes from taking into account ballots that arrived late. * The 0.02% number from 2020 is actually 0.2%, and only takes into account ballots that arrived on time. The signature rejection rate in 2020 was actually very similar to the rates in 2018 and 2016.…

What's the 2020 number if we take into account ballots that arrived late? Is it near to 6 percent?

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

singlow wrote: post #330

If there is to be toleration in the world, one of the things taught in schools must be the habit of weighing evidence, and the practice of not giving full assent to propositions which there is no reason to believe true. For example, the art of reading the newspapers should be taught. The schoolmaster should select some incident which happened a good many years ago, and roused political passions in its day. He should…

Today I had a frightening interaction on Facebook with a friend of my wife's cousin. He claimed "the new COVID-19 virus had never been tested on humans, only animals" and when I called him on his misinformation and pointed out that the phase 3 trial for the Pfizer vaccine included 43,000 people he shrugged and told me he was entitled to his opinions, and he just had different sources.

This is somehow terrifying.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by newacct583 »

sakopov wrote: post #643

So, maybe I'm not understanding something, but there are numerous reports from what appear to be reputable sources -- a few listed below -- claiming that there were uncovered missing votes during recounts in Georgia. However, there isn't a word said about this on CNN, MSNBC or any other heavily left-leaning media sources. The only sources that I hear talking about this are on YouTube. I don't give a shit if I get dow…

That's not true at all. Every recount changes the results by a little bit, and that's exactly what happened and exactly what was reported in the recounts in Georgia and Wisconsin.

What was not seen was "fraud", nor any reason to suspect the end result of the election (Biden victories in those states) was incorrect.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by chrisrhoden »

jefe_ wrote: post #672

This leaky bucket approach seems ineffective, ignores the root cause, and likely emboldens people adhering to these ideas. As bizarre as it sounds, I think the root cause for the rise in supply and demand for misinformation is the decline of the church/religion. Couple that with technology and it's uncharted territory. Many people need something to believe in, whether it's luck, god, nature, whatever, beliefs are com…

Speaking anecdotally, I know and know of many people who believe the election was stolen from the president by a conspiracy, 100% of whom are devout evangelicals.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

grawprog wrote: post #694

https://www.engadget.com/youtube-election-misinformation-dem... So, i'm kind of curious how it's reasonable a political party can ask for partisan censorship. >YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki received a letter on Tuesday from four Democratic senators expressing “deep concern” over the spread of election misinformation on Google’s video platform. In the letter, senators Robert Menendez of New Jersey, Mazie Hirono of Hawaii…

Unfortunately this is far too common, whether its Youtube in this instance, or Facebook touting its cooperation with the FBI and the Atlantic Council. Once a company starts taking government funds and/or government directives the debate ceases to be about free speech and censorship and becomes an issue of illegality and violations of the 1st Amendment.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by mountainboy »

grawprog wrote: post #694

https://www.engadget.com/youtube-election-misinformation-dem... So, i'm kind of curious how it's reasonable a political party can ask for partisan censorship. >YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki received a letter on Tuesday from four Democratic senators expressing “deep concern” over the spread of election misinformation on Google’s video platform. In the letter, senators Robert Menendez of New Jersey, Mazie Hirono of Hawaii…

yes, it is. Government pressured censorship at least.

One can make a reasonable argument that YouTube is making the decision voluntarily. And the letter is just giving them some cover for what they wanted to do, based on their own biases, anyway.

But private censorship is still censorship. And when a platform is so large that it has effectively become "the public square", well I do not go so far as to say that they cannot legally engage in censorship, but I do believe they are morally obliged not to, and should be publically called out when they do.

I hope people will begin moving to other platforms in droves so that some real competition emerges.

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Post by thanksforthe42 »

sixothree wrote: post #623
singlow wrote: post #330

If there is to be toleration in the world, one of the things taught in schools must be the habit of weighing evidence, and the practice of not giving full assent to propositions which there is no reason to believe true. For example, the art of reading the newspapers should be taught. The schoolmaster should select some incident which happened a good many years ago, and roused political passions in its day. He should…

That's not how the human brain works. Repeat a lie often enough and it become true no matter how analytical you pretend to be.

Explains why people repeat Apple's claims of Privacy and Security.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by sebow »

Sad day not only for americans, youtubers & it's common users but for the flow of information worldwide.

If there's a good part about this is that youtube hasn't achieve the dystopian corporate monopoly status yet, and there are still chances for the world to pick up alternatives.

Yes most of them are scrappy because they try to implement decentralization to circumvent shitty censorship & cancel-culture practices.But they exist and it's the duty of tech-literate individuals to let others know that they exist.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by chki »

duemti wrote: post #140

I'm baffled how people support this behavior from big tech. It almost seems like they think of themselves as immune to this somehow, like little sheep unable to comprehend that they themselves once will deviate will get the same treatment (assuming they have spine to stand for what they believe).

The "slippery slope" argument doesn't work in this case (as for usual). Youtube already removes certain types of content and it already removes certain types of political content. This is necessary to monetize the platform in a meaningful way.
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