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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by freyir »

TACIXAT wrote: post #598
TACIXAT wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>should Youtube host your video for free? Yes, because I am making content for them for free. It is unpaid labor on my part in exchange for free hosting. Now it is unpaid labor that makes them money.

Could someone explain the downvotes? I do not believe this is such a radical opinion. Prior to this change you were still producing content for the YouTube ecosystem for free until you hit 4k view hours. Then you could begin to make a meager amount of money. It is not such a great deal for content creators and now it is even worse.

“I am making content for them for free.”

YouTube is a business.

Hosting and serving your content costs them money.

If your content provides no means to recoup those costs, you’re not doing them a favor, they’re doing you a favor.

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Post by ChuckMcM »

This move is consistent with the hypothesis that Google is dying. I'll admit though that my predictions on the next place they would start to monetize was not these videos. And I expect this action to see some litigation (basically Google restricts who can be a 'partner' and forces you to allow them to monetize your video without compensation if you aren't a partner, that is basically copyright infringement of the content creators content :-))

My guess had been they would start charging for access to Google Maps or "more than 2 turn by turn directions per week" would cost extra or something.

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Post by nmfisher »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #702

This move is consistent with the hypothesis that Google is dying. I'll admit though that my predictions on the next place they would start to monetize was not these videos. And I expect this action to see some litigation (basically Google restricts who can be a 'partner' and forces you to allow them to monetize your video without compensation if you aren't a partner, that is basically copyright infringement of the co…

“Dying” is quite the stretch. I think a better description would be “trying to squeeze as much revenue from existing products”.

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Post by nmfisher »

Cu3PO42 wrote: post #517
ryandrake wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did pretty much a similar thing years ago, but went self-hosted. It took a year or so including the transition phase. 1. Set up incoming E-mail forwarding from mydomain.org to Gmail. Exim will do this, probably all popular mail packages support forwarding well. 2. Start sending E-mail (from Gmail's interface) as me@mydomain.org, and tell your friends to use that one. 2.5. (optional) Get your local mail client to wo…

I tried self hosting. And even with SPF and DKIM set up correctly my e-mails to Outlook.com (and assocciated other domains) was just dropped. It didn't go to the spam folder, it was just silently dropped. At the time I heard that this was essentially expected behavior for an IP without a good enough trust record. This even happened when I replied to mail sent from an Outlook.com account. Having my e-mail randomly not…

Exactly my experience too.

If there’s one thing I want an antitrust investigation to focus on, it’s the gradual monopoly that Google/Microsoft/etc have inadvertently built over “clean” IP addresses. It’s now practically impossible for independents and small businesses to run their own mail servers.

I’m not blaming Google/etc for it, but it is a situation that requires a fix.

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Post by goldenManatee »

nmfisher wrote: post #703
ChuckMcM wrote: post #702

This move is consistent with the hypothesis that Google is dying. I'll admit though that my predictions on the next place they would start to monetize was not these videos. And I expect this action to see some litigation (basically Google restricts who can be a 'partner' and forces you to allow them to monetize your video without compensation if you aren't a partner, that is basically copyright infringement of the co…

“Dying” is quite the stretch. I think a better description would be “trying to squeeze as much revenue from existing products”.

Yeah. The alternative is they see a lot of big tech regulation headed their way. They preemptively set the rules of the negotiation by pushing their limits that come into question. After that, negotiating down a little makes government funded crackdowns more appealing for everyone, and they’ve still effectively set their own rules. Even if they lose a few million in fights, it’s something they’re committed to fighting.

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Post by antpls »

I bet the decision comes after the surge of VOD upload by Twitch streamers trying to not get caught by DMCA.

You can say bye bye to the thousands of relaxing ASMR and ambiance videos on YouTube.

Thanks NewPipe and youtube-dl for allowing us to watch ad-less videos.

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Post by codecutter »

zucked wrote: post #392
codecutter wrote: post #205

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Exactly my thought. As much as I hate advertising and Google business practices, I would rather pay to avoid advertisements if that is an option. For $15/month family plan for 6 users, I find it to be a reasonable deal.

Currently in the US, YT Premium (Family) is $17.99/month.

I was grandfathered from Google music family plan for same old price of $15 + tax. I am not aware of current price for new subscribers.

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Post by brokenmachine »

SXX wrote: post #630
forest_dweller wrote: post #615

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Where? Most place seem to get quite expensive once you add a Object Storage on top.

Hetzner $50+ servers have 1gbps uplink with unmetered BW.

replying to Aerroon but it was too deep so replying here.

Is there a way to do it with some p2p à la popcorntime?

Then if there was a surge, the peers could absorb some of it.

Does peertube do that?

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Post by polski-g »

cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

He should have half the content on YouTube then in the end say "click here to view the rest of this video". And it goes to bitchute.
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