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As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

the policeman involved in the original incident should be investigated Oh give it a rest. We saw him kill the man, he can sit a cell and prepare for his trial like any other killer. If you don't like what people int he media say find different commentators or stop listening to pundits altogether. I am sick to the back teeth of people complaining about 'the mainstream media', when Fox News and Sinclair broadcasting ar…

> Oh give it a rest. We saw him kill the man, he can sit a cell and prepare for his trial like any other killer.

He can sit in a cell while being investigated. The fact that it is all on camera just makes it a quick investigation. But everyone gets due process. (also EVERYONE there needs to be investigated, not just the killer)

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the policeman involved in the original incident should be investigated Oh give it a rest. We saw him kill the man, he can sit a cell and prepare for his trial like any other killer. If you don't like what people int he media say find different commentators or stop listening to pundits altogether. I am sick to the back teeth of people complaining about 'the mainstream media', when Fox News and Sinclair broadcasting ar…

The investigation lead to an arrest today. That's how the system works. And it worked in this case. Where was your rage for Justine Damond? Shot by Officer Mohamed Noor from the passenger seat of his police cruiser, across his partner. Where were the riots? Also, when people complain about MSM they are including Fox and Sinclair. It's all corrupted and meant to drive a narrative instead of presenting objective views…

First time hearing about Justine Damond.. But black officer goes to jail and white family gets 20 MILLION dollars... Maybe it's media bias but in a sick way that seems to underline bias in the system.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#703

I am so, so tired of everyone apply "conservative" to outright nonsense. We should say "republican" or "trumpian" instead. There is nothing conservative in many of the far-right ideas, by any definition of the word. If the idea or opinion is: 1) Based on pure hate 2) Based on treating a protected class badly - you know, the whole reason we have class protections 3) Based on NOTHING AT ALL, no facts given, other than…

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So I have a question about this. Does free speech apply to platforms like Facebook and Twitter? I would have thought that a website owner has a choice about the content of their website, even if that content is user generated. Surely they could remove any tweet they wanted and not be sued?

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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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The White House twitter account has issued a response: https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1266367168603721728?s=... This* Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, @Twitter has determined that it will allow terrorists, dictators, and foreign propagandists to abuse its platform. *Referring to an attached picture of a Khamenei tweet about Palestine

That's amazing. Of all the horrific thing people post to Twitter all day long, a vague statement about Palestinian independence is the "best" whataboutist comparison Trump could find to match his own threat to open fire on the country he is sworn to defend.

How about this? https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1265440342892929025?...

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#706

Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

so they must police across the board or police none? Well since it's impossible to police everything what should they do?

In my view at the end of the day Twitter can police whoever they want and users can leave if they don't like it.

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This movement is about centuries of unjustness. To me, it is appropriate that the occasional bystander and business is overlooked. That doesn't mean that if you were my sibling, or friend, or business that I wouldn't be entitled to express personal pain. But the magnitude of my pain is nothing next to the pain that's led up to this, and no it wouldn't be appropriate for it to get remotely equal attention. Sure, ideal…

Where was this movement when Justine Damond was shot in the gut by a black cop in Minneapolis? I don't recall any protests, let alone riots or burning down the city. And if your expression of pain includes looting booze from a liquor store or a TV from Target, what exactly are you trying to say? By the way, those bystanders and local businesses owners are people of color too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond

> Noor was ultimately arrested and charged with second-degree manslaughter and third-degree murder following an eight-month investigation by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the Hennepin County Attorney's Office. In April 2019, Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and manslaughter, but acquitted of intentional second-degree murder. In June 2019, Noor was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison.

It seems like the system ended up working to a degree, at least putting the murderer behind bars. So why would one expect significant protests?

The outrage in these cases isn't over a white cop killing a black person per se, it's that the system immediately moves to protect the murderers because they're cops. Rather than arresting the criminal, fellow corrupt cops were stationed outside of his house to protect him. That the main perp has finally been charged is a product of the protests rather than the justice system moving slowly - witness that the conspirators have yet to be charged. Anyone who believes in law and order should be sympathetic to the protestors, even in spite of race.

Furthermore, ascribing the motives of a few looters onto the whole protest is ridiculous. Especially as at least some of that destruction was led by agents provocateurs.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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post #171

This is amazing news, and I hope Twitter adopts this policy for all rules violations. Much better than deleting tweet or banning accounts, this lets people decide what they want to see. (Except for obvious spammers etc. which should probably be banned.) Even better would be if there were user-configurable "lists", whereby you could decide upfront what you want / don't want to see (like many sites do right now with NS…

If we're being honest, Twitter is basically a machine that glorifies violence. It rewards it at the platform and algorithmic level.

An endless volume of tweets under every charged trending topic violates these rules, which are being surfaced and promoted by the platform. And it enables mob mentality like nothing we've seen before.

Moderation is mostly just theater, especially as long as the platform itself is quite literally encouraging the core behavior.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#710

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I'm not actually against the idea, but arbitrary blocklists would accelerate bubbling people away from anyone who could possibly think differently from them, which has its own issues.

Radicalism and inciting to violence should be bubbled not amplified.

Unfortunately, you're bubbling away people who believe in free speech and free thought as well, and there are probably a lot more of those.

edit: Adding a bit more, the people being bubbled away will likely tend to just isolate. You might think you like that idea, but having spent some time in isolation, I will attest that it kind of messes with your head. You lose your "phase lock" with society on a lot of different norms, small and large. The stereotype of the "dangerous loner", though not always fair, attests to this reality.

If you want to keep someone as a useful member of society and not a tragedy-of-the-day, you have to keep talking to them.

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