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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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At that price point, I couldn't see the point of buying a Mac Pro, versus buying a real desktop and a disposable Asus or Acer or Chromebook for the rare times I need to lug something around.

I think the only thing that might tempt me is if they brought back the 17" form factor, but I don't think they have made those for almost a decade. Those things were monsters, and everyone I know who had one rode it until it wouldn't go anymore.

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But the Apple keyboards are already $150, with no “lower” model available. Add a touchbar and it will be a $300 keyboard. Note that the price bump for emoji-enabled Macbooks is about the same.

Third party keyboards are a lot cheaper and work just as well, plus you get real F-keys if you want. While I personally wouldn't buy it (I'm kind of picky about the tactile feel of the keyboard), you can get this fully functional Bluetooth keyboard for $20. https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Bluetooth-Ultra-Slim-Keyboard-D...

I have a theory that Apple will eventually replace the entire keyboard with a giant “Touch Bar.”

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I have the 15" 2018 MacBook Pro and would not recommend one until the following issues are resolved: - It runs really, really hot. It cannot be used on your lap. I cannot imagine how hot a faster model would be. - The keyboard is unreliable. I have not had the stuck key problem (yet!), but I do notice occasional crunching like something is stuck in the keys. I do not eat around this machine on purpose. - The Touchbar…

I agree that the default OS window management is pretty limited but this can literally be solved for $5 or less (sometimes $1) using utilities on the App Store that perform snapping, saved layouts, etc.

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We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

Apple has already released a fix for the screen issue, with a longer cable less likely to break. This was months ago.

They have also never said that 2 and 3 keyboard were fixes for the keyboard issue.

I am surprised someone in the business can be so far behind the news.

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My 2018 Macbook Pro's screen failed. They replaced it for free, but damaged the webcam in the process. They told me I'd need to pay over 500 dollars to get it fixed since I could not prove it was damaged while switching screens.

Ask for the functional test that's performed before and after each repair, if they can't produce the results you should be able to escalate further quite easily.

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I own both a 15" Macbook Pro 2017 model with touch bar and a Dell XPS 15" 2017 model. Both have their pluses and minuses. Both needed major repairs. Dell needed logic board and screen replaced. Mac needed logic board and keyboard. I mainly use the Mac. It's much quieter, has an amazingly vivid and bright retina display, extremely good battery life, best track pad in the industry and the best speakers on any laptop I'…

Dell XPS laptops are some of the best Linux laptops out there. No need for Windows. I've been using the same model as you with Linux for a while now and an very happy with it.

I've tried to go full Linux desktop. I hated it. On the servers I manage, I run terminal only and mostly BSD systems. Linux desktop just boils my piss. Plus I need Adobe apps, and a few other bits and pieces of software. I need my machine to facilitate my work, not get in my way. I appreciate that Linux works like that for some, but for me, not at all.

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Since the introduction of Mac OS X, I've always thought of macOS in terms of a Venn diagram of two partially overlapping circles: (A) Operating systems that major desktop apps support (B) Developer-friendly operating systems (Unix/Linux at the core, default shell is bash or similar, etc.) Windows is in (A). Linux is in (B). But macOS is in the overlapping area between (A) and (B). It's the best of both worlds.

I've struggled with this idea - almost everything (outside Apple specific development) is ported to Windows. My work is in .NET and various Javascript frameworks. Never had a problem with Windows. Plus I feel if I really needed a Linux environment, the Linux subsystem would fill that need.

Our family has lots of Apple hardware and I’ve had Macs off on over the years. But, the last time I owned a Mac - the 2006 Core Duo Mac Mini - I realized that there was no software that I was using on it that I couldn’t get for Windows that I cared about.

I also told myself I needed a Windows laptop for hobby projects outside of work. A few things happened to make me think about getting another Mac within the next 18 months.

- All of my work now is cross platform .Net Core, JavaScript, and Python.

- I don’t have any plans on doing any Windows specific development.

- In the unlikely event that I need to do anything on Windows, I’ll spin up an EC2 instance in my hobby AWS account.

- the chances of any company I work for not giving me a Windows laptop is slim.

But honestly, I don’t do side projects that aren’t work related and I hardly ever use my computer at home besides as a Plex server. I use my iPad at home mostly with a Bluetooth keyboard for the rare personal MS Office work

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We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

The cheapest XPS 15" is more expensive than the cheapest MB 15". Are there any reliable ~$1000 laptops to host linux?

I’m not sure where you’re looking, but the XPS 15 starts at $1000. Of course, you’re not going to want that hybrid drive.

Dell also has an upcoming Memorial Day sale where they will discount certain models, and the new XPS 15 is due out next month.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-15/spd/xps-...

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Lots of people on HN call the Mac OS 'great' ... But why? What is so great about it that is not similar on Linux or Windows? When ye say "great", I think ye mean "the one I am familiar with".

Windows is crap. The UI is totally schizoid, with different apps using different toolkits. Office for Mac integrates more cleanly into the look and feel of the rest of the OS than Office for Windows. There are two different settings apps with different features. Basic things are poorly designed. E.g. if you put the task bar in autohide mode, it routinely gets “stuck” because some notification is keeping it from hidin…

Best example is still the Settings/Control Panel mess in Windows 10. It's always a fun game guessing where the setting I need is, especially considering the useless Start menu search.

That being said, I have high hopes considering their latest efforts, the new terminal looks cool, powershell is useful and WSL2 looks to bridge the gap. I'm a die hard macOS user that requires Windows for a variety of work tasks, i'm glad to see the effort and competition.

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After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

I'm using Ubuntu, which hasn't really changed in the last 5 years or so (gah the Ambiance theme), and still find the GUI super limited, slow, ugly, bad fonts, etc. IMO its inferior to macOS and Windows by miles.
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