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Master Plan, Part Deux

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Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Suburbs destroy public life, create anxiety and a sense of atomization, and turn natural spaces into scar tissue. Even if you could perfect transportation technology, suburbs are the least optimal configuration for humans to live in the world.

Dense urban areas create anxiety for me, while suburbs give the nice quiet retreat with plenty of open space, and no random annoyances. I bet I'm not alone in this. Don't assume that your subjective personal experiences translate to everyone. Here's a question for you. If suburbs are "the least optimal configuration", then why did urban sprawl occur in the first place? Why did so many people leave the cities and soug…

> Here's a question for you. If suburbs are "the least optimal configuration", then why did urban sprawl occur in the first place? Why did so many people leave the cities and sought bigger homes on wider lots?

Because humans are irrational.

Gentler answer: Because of a variety of social, political, and economic pressures. For example, quick list because I really shouldn’t be spending time on this:

* Social: Running away from black people.

* Political: Spreading out the population in case of nuclear war. Accommodating population growth without the headache of having to tear down any existing building. Giving the white flight voting bloc the housing that they think they deserve.

* Economic: A fad in having housing physically separated from jobs and other commercial activities, like the current ridiculous fad of flat UI design in software. Objectively worse, but that’s what you get paid to build and favorable financing to buy.

What I care about is that suburbs are not sustainable. The climate change crisis is acute now, and I look at the per capita use of energy, water, and infrastructure (how many miles of roads per capita, how many miles of driving per capita, how many miles of water pipes per capita, how much water usage per capita), and on no measure are suburbs better than dense cities. Take away debt financing for the infrastructure, which eventually does stop working, and I don’t think most suburbs would physically survive.

http://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme/

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Did you just use the word utilize to make your argument sound more coherent?

I utilize comment sections to keep my writing and argumentative faculties sharp. This is not how I'd normally communicate. I don't care about karma.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/use-versu...

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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I do. It just doesn't mean it's true or necessarily a requirement. Nor does it mean the car is better. A better locksmith takes less time to open a door.

Did you just utilize an analogy concerning destruction to make a point about production?

Yes. I can find another analogy if you like, but the message is the same.

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Why would it make any sense to account for the effort needed to produce oil from high-entropy substrates and an energy source? If you're going that far, why not take it to its logical conclusion and ask how much it would cost to create a barrel of crude oil starting from nothing at all, creating your own Big Bang and going from there? As Sagan said, if you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent…

Looking at the actual cost of formation of fossil fuels makes sense from a total accounting standpoint. That's a depletion of an existing capital stock -- a bank account, if you will. Might want to talk to the good citizens of Nauru about their experience. And actually, tracing back resources to their antecedents is useful -- there are compounds which formed through biological activity (fossil fuels, limestone, most…

One point I see unaddressed are efficiency gains. Couldn't we increase efficiency and effectively make that finite supply infinite?

Re: Master Plan, Part Deux

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Ford can have fewer employees per car because they're at full scale, they've outsourced nearly all their engineering and have outsourced their sales as well via an antiquated dealer model. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf15nMnayXk

Say what you will about their "antiquated" business practices, but Ford consistently does one thing that Tesla never does: it turns a profit

Ford is 113 years old, Tesla is 13.
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