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1. Actually work (strangely, current IE can't accomplish this on some of my machines)
2. Tree Style Tabs
3. Support for popular ad-blockers
4. Easy on memory (including ability to unload a tab and actually release that memory, something FF can't seem to figure out)
5. Don't constantly take a 45 second timeout with lots of tabs open (like Firefox)
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It feels to me like current benchmarks all measure execution time, not user time. Let's say you go from a reasonably sized web page to another, and then hit the back button. How long to load the previous page? Right click on a link and select open in new tab. How long does it take to open a new tab? It's definitely part of the user's perception of the browser's speed, but I don't think stuff like SunSpider and Octane…
Heavily related to this, one key insight that I think has been neglected is that JavaScript benchmarks do a bad job of measuring cold code. Most code on the Web is cold, because much Web browsing consists of fresh page loads. Heavily optimizing JITs are exactly what you don't want for cold code: time spent compiling is time you could have been spending running the code. But benchmarks consist of running the same code…
I agree with your overall point of cold cold performance being paramount. But I don't think this follows. A heavily optimizing JIT can have very good cold-code performance if the JIT is especially fast and/or it makes especially good decisions about when to JIT.
The important trait is short break-even time: how long after JIT-ting some code that you break even on the investment of JITting time.
When all I knew was the JVM I assumed that JIT-compiling inherently had a long warm-up / break-even time. Now that I've experienced LuaJIT I know this isn't true. I haven't benchmarked the major JIT-ting JS engines but they seem pretty good at this too?
Benchmarks are good but the overall experience is what matters the most. I'm really impressed by the startup time of Edge. I type some query in the Cortana search bar and press Enter, it launches Edge extremely fast. So far I really love the performance. However to make it my main browser I'm still waiting for adblocking extensions. I browse with a few tabs opened, one of them start randomly playing an ad video, at l…
CTRL + L to highlight the address bar and gain focus. Thanks for the tip.
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How could they not? You upgrade your OS or buy a new computer, and you see a new application ( that you didn't install ) and you ( presumably ) can't uninstall it. Wouldn't any rational person assume it's a pre-installed application? Wouldn't it make sense to believe that the OS developer created it? There's an old joke about IE when people purchase a new computer: It's the browser I use to install another browser. W…
> Everyone In my experience, you're dramatically overestimating how many people really understand what a browser is, what IE is, or can disambiguate between Chrome and Google.
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I run exactly zero extension and used an ad-blocker for maybe 1 month in my whole lifetime. With that being said, I am genuinely curious how these 2 things are necessary for you to consider a browser. Are there extensions that I don't have that is crazy for me not to have?
I'm genuinely curious how anyone can spend any significant amount of time reading on the web and not use an ad-blocker. Even mostly-benign animated sidebar ads are too distracting for me.
My ad-blocker has been honed for the past 20 years I've been using the web. It's in my head. I just don't see banner-shaped animated objects anymore.
That said, I do block Flash for performance reasons, which also results in getting rid of the worst offenders. The day banners start using CSS animations or god forbid WebGL, I'll probably start blocking them outright.
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>Renaming your browser won't change peoples' memory of Internet Explorer, even if Microsoft built Edge from the ground up. The average person is still going to be thinking IE when they see it. Maybe I'm underestimating how culturally aware the average person is, but I doubt most people will care to make this connection between IE and Edge.
How could they not? You upgrade your OS or buy a new computer, and you see a new application ( that you didn't install ) and you ( presumably ) can't uninstall it. Wouldn't any rational person assume it's a pre-installed application? Wouldn't it make sense to believe that the OS developer created it? There's an old joke about IE when people purchase a new computer: It's the browser I use to install another browser. W…
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Edge is replacing IE and is the default browser for Windows 10. IE is included in Windows 10, but it is buried in the Windows Accessories folder in the Start menu. The current version of IE is 11 and that will be the last. Microsoft will support IE until Jan 2016.
> Microsoft will support IE until Jan 2016. Uh... [1] Beginning January 12, 2016, the following operating systems and browser version combinations will be supported: Windows Vista SP2 Internet Explorer 9 Windows Server 2008 SP2 Internet Explorer 9 ... After January 12, 2016, only the most recent version of Internet Explorer available for a supported operating system will receive technical support and security updates…
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HTML5test is OK but caniuse.com shows more but people will complain about every browser test site since I started doing web dev 11 years ago. Here's the thing. Edge is IE without the legacy baggage and that's all it is. No different. It's still behind every other browser in its ability to comply with standards and APIs. Despite Microsoft's claim that it will be an "evergreen" browser, that it will update more often,…
I prefer caniuse.com too. The bit about Edge just being IE without the legacy baggage is incorrect. You can see the new standards and APIs they've either added or are adding here: http://dev.modern.ie/platform/status/?filter=f06000000 The thing I'm happiest about is the user-agent change so poorly written JavaScript / CSS that was written for webkit instead of standards will now magically start working.
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I run exactly zero extension and used an ad-blocker for maybe 1 month in my whole lifetime. With that being said, I am genuinely curious how these 2 things are necessary for you to consider a browser. Are there extensions that I don't have that is crazy for me not to have?
I'm genuinely curious how anyone can spend any significant amount of time reading on the web and not use an ad-blocker. Even mostly-benign animated sidebar ads are too distracting for me.