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Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by mhomde »

itsuart wrote: post #68
mhomde wrote: post #54

I'm really loving how the refactor and generate stuff has developed over the years. It is such a different experience these days and I'm probably at least five times as productive as a result of it. First we had no refactor tools at all, and how we survived I'll never now Then basic refactor tools where introduced. You could call up a dialog to do explicit refactoring. Then the generate functionality was introduced a…

Well, Resharper is available since VS2003 if not earlier. It has what VS2015 has to offer and more. Including extracting code into methods and classes. I can't even image the pain developing without it (at least before VS 2015).

Yeah, I've been a heavy Resharper user for a long time as well... but now I almost don't know which bulbs and stuff is VS and what is Resharper :) and Resharper re-binds some shortcuts. Feels like Resharper is a couple of steps in front of VS still though, the refactor LINQ expression functionality for instance is simply fantastic

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by quaffapint »

highmastdon wrote: post #29

Too bad this does only contain the preview of .NET 5. I hoped this release would bring a more stable version of .NET 5

The ASP.NET team had stated a few months back they are a couple months behind the visual studio release, so it shouldn't be that much longer.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by romanovcode »

karpodiem wrote: post #66

as a newish dev (eventually I'll work my way to vim), I really enjoy using Visual Studio, and my wallet is very happy that they decided to release a Community edition. Microsoft has been making some great strides lately - keep it up!

If my understanding is correct you're using VS and writing C#. If that's the case it's just stupid to use VIM.

Let me tell you one thing: Using VIM will not make you "pro hacker". It won't even make you more productive, probably.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by rottyguy »

JamesBarney wrote: post #59
rottyguy wrote: post #37

Has anyone done anything interesting with Roslyn to date (v1 is mentioned in the notes)?

I was working on a large enterprise application that had a dynamically generated data model, so all data access was done through strings. So much of the code looked like dictionary accesses "if(car[Constants.Wheels"].ContainsKey[Constants.FrontLeftWheel])" Now unfortunately there was not just one constants file, this application numbered nearly 60 projects and each one possessed a constants file and people added stri…

Interesting... Was suspecting (hoping) that the technology would provide solutions outside ide/code space.

Could you provide some highlevel details of the implementation? TIA!

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by manigandham »

mhomde wrote: post #65
manigandham wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Background compiling and live-updating is now here with Rosyln powered builds. EDIT: actually I'm not sure if this only applies to ASP.NET 5 which constantly builds in the background in-memory...

Hmm, in what sense, or do you mean it's feasible now? I was thinking that whenever I press F5 it should instantly run. It's insane that the computer just loiters around and doesn't compile until you explicitly tells it to, when it could do incremental background compiling... especially since the editor pretty much does that anyway to provide its intellisense and stuff. The build process seems very separated from the…

Roslyn is a new compiler built in C# and faster. When using VS2015 (and confirmed working with asp.net 5 projects), the solution is compiled using Roslyn and completely in memory (meaning it doesnt build and then write out assemblies to disk just to read them back into memory and reset the app).

The whole cycle is way faster and there's a lot less pause time between editing a c# file, hitting save and then just hitting refresh in the browser. I'm not sure about mobile app dev but that probably has more latency due to the emulator setup.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by mhomde »

manigandham wrote: post #75
mhomde wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, in what sense, or do you mean it's feasible now? I was thinking that whenever I press F5 it should instantly run. It's insane that the computer just loiters around and doesn't compile until you explicitly tells it to, when it could do incremental background compiling... especially since the editor pretty much does that anyway to provide its intellisense and stuff. The build process seems very separated from the…

Roslyn is a new compiler built in C# and faster. When using VS2015 (and confirmed working with asp.net 5 projects), the solution is compiled using Roslyn and completely in memory (meaning it doesnt build and then write out assemblies to disk just to read them back into memory and reset the app). The whole cycle is way faster and there's a lot less pause time between editing a c# file, hitting save and then just hitti…

hmm, I doubt it applies to Windows Forms and WPF... but I could be wrong

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by jeroen »

Locke1689 wrote: post #35
highmastdon wrote: post #29

Too bad this does only contain the preview of .NET 5. I hoped this release would bring a more stable version of .NET 5

It contains .NET 4.6, which is stable and not .NET 5. AFAIK, .NET 5 doesn't exist?

asp.net 5 beta 5: https://github.com/aspnet/Home/releases/tag/v1.0.0-beta5

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by megaman22 »

Cshelton wrote: post #10
ifdefdebug wrote: post #8

Visual Studio 2015 Community: Full-featured Integrated Development Environment for building Web, Windows Desktop and cross-platform iOS, Android, and Windows apps [1]. ... cross-platform iOS, Android, and Windows apps? That's new, isn't it? [1] https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/vs-2015-product-... EDIT: Err, sorry, the page changed since I wrote this comment, the quoted statement is gone... EDIT2: Looks lik…

Yes it is. Although, is .Net fully open sourced yet? or still in the process? I'm not so sure you can build an IOS app quite yet in visual studio?

Parts of it. Stuff like WinForms and System.Web are so wrapped around the axle of Windows that they probably won't be open-sourced, but a lot of it has been.
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