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No-one needs this, I predict accidents. I hope insurance companies can determine which models have this and inexperienced drivers should pay more. Just hope no-one kills anyone.
Amazing, that's as fast as the Lamborghini Aventador https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Aventador
In a straight line... The Tesla weighs more than an F150 and corners like a boat
I've personally always had preference for smaller and better cornering / better handling cars. But there's a subset of car enthusiasts who only care about straight-line performance.
Even if not a software update, I still find Tesla's way of thinking of a car as an actual (continuously update/upgrade-able) product fascinating. Very rare for hardware. It gives an amazing user experience, "Hey restart your car and it's now got X and Y". Respect. Edit: clarifying the term "product".
What? I think I know what you mean, but how the hell are BMW not thinking of their cars as "actual products"?
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The GTR is 2.9 seconds, so the tesla is faster- Its also faster in the 1/4 mile as well, so this is kind of a big deal. I believe this is the fastest production car under 300k that you can buy.
The Ariel Atom 500 (with the V8) is a little bit faster at 2.3 seconds 0-60. However it's not really a daily driver kind of car like the Tesla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIiWhWpzFQQ
The Tesla is a 4-door sedan that you could easily use to pick up business partners from the airport. You might as well compare the tesla to a BMW HP4 (superbike).
Tesla is getting so much, that if any automaker that can deliver a car with half the specs of a model S, and keeping their model's prices as a mass produced car, would deliver a big punch to Tesla, and would greatly move the market forward.
Is it the investment necessary for building a network of charging stations?
I highly doubt it is because Tesla has more money for R&D than any other car maker.
Is getting a Model S, earns you the title of being an early adopter. Because I believe the market already shifted towards this type of vehicles, but I may be polarized, because I already desire an electric car.
Asides Nissan GTR, supercars running in 300,000 USD will do roughly 3.0~3.1. hypercars like pagani, p1, porsche, laferrari achieve sub 3.0
I'm extremely impressed. Even more because this was just another regular software update.
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What your parent might be talking about is the distinction between a product that is continually supported by the creator (such as a hardware device with software that can be updated) and an artefact that is produced and then effectively forgotten about by the creator (though there might exist a first- or third-party market for repair and maintenance). I have a feeling that many auto manufacturers still think more in…
My point is that the vast, vast, vast amount of products out there don't have auto-update. This includes my morning cereal, my fancy designer dustbin, my bicycle, my microwave, and my 2-year old son's favourite teddybeardogthing. To only call something a product when it has auto-update is such ridiculous HN navel gazing that it's just funny. EDIT: removed useless rant for fear of losing even more internet points!
Even if not a software update, I still find Tesla's way of thinking of a car as an actual (continuously update/upgrade-able) product fascinating. Very rare for hardware. It gives an amazing user experience, "Hey restart your car and it's now got X and Y". Respect. Edit: clarifying the term "product".
What? I think I know what you mean, but how the hell are BMW not thinking of their cars as "actual products"?
I mean a non-disposable, dynamic and upgradable hardware product. This is the first time that I see this in the hardware world, where every object is manufactured and then all plans are towards a V2 or a new product.
The few exceptions are for recalls, but that's obviously a different story.
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Its easier to expand downwards. e.g. Take Porsche...they have a bullet proof brand so they can sell a Cayenne football mom SUV fairly easily...just costs a bit of brand dilution. Doing the opposite (SUV to sportscar) would be a tough sell no matter how (objectively) good the sportscar is.
> It's easier to expand downwards Lots of business research says this is not true, and in fact, the opposite. This is why VW is the world's most popular car maker, and not Porsche.
Not to say that your point is inaccurate (it's actually very accurate; the ability for companies like Toyota to drive down costs goes a long way toward mass adoption, and it's something that "luxury" makers like Porsche don't typically have the experience in). Tesla could very well be an exception here, since the big focus as of late is to ramp up manufacturing until Model-whatevers (and, in particular, their batteries) can flow out of factories at ludicrous speeds.
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