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Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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The fact that this post is currently #3 on HN homepage and has ~100 comments in support is a strong indication to limit investment of time and effort in HN as a source of knowledge and HN community as a source of rational discussion.

EDIT: 50 -> 100 comments. That rule about avoiding gratuitous negativity is obviously not working.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Phone -> USB Cable -> Computer. Transfer images via said cable. Select images, put in email and send to mum. Having said that - all his points are valid, though I'm not sure I'd bother to get that angry at stuff that is out of my contorl.

Does this actually work for you with a recent Android phone? On my Moto G, this is more like: connect USB cable, wait 2 minutes while the computer is mounting the MTP. See it fail. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Forgot to unlock screen on the phone. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Wait another 2 minutes. The drive mounts now. Select photos. Copy. Paste to hard drive. Wait 10 minutes while the computer is copying the files.…

I use an app called AirDroid (https://www.airdroid.com/) to copy files to/from my Moto G. It works reasonably well in my experience.

I have no idea what the benefit of MTP over USB mass storage was imagined to be.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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I think that for some time now Google's services are mostly crap. For example when I upgraded KitKat to Lollipop they fucked up my calendar. No month view? Seriously? Plus it always vibrates since silent mode is gone. I found this out the hard way. My phone is always in silent mode and after the upgrade one day it just vibrated off the desk and the display broke. I should sue Google for this. Anyway back to your issu…

Yep. For me Google+ was the turning point. It started before that, but if you drew a line graph of Quality of Products for Google I think you'd see the Google+ rollout event on that line without it being pointed out. I don't work there, and never have, so I have no idea what the cause is. My guess is just the fact that the company has grown so much that maintaining the quality of people and thus products that they pu…

Google products used to be simple and usable. Now they are all fucked up. Seems like that their QA department went on a permanent vacation.

I have actually written to them about my issues and I'm waiting for a response ever since.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Phone -> USB Cable -> Computer. Transfer images via said cable. Select images, put in email and send to mum. Having said that - all his points are valid, though I'm not sure I'd bother to get that angry at stuff that is out of my contorl.

Does this actually work for you with a recent Android phone? On my Moto G, this is more like: connect USB cable, wait 2 minutes while the computer is mounting the MTP. See it fail. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Forgot to unlock screen on the phone. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Wait another 2 minutes. The drive mounts now. Select photos. Copy. Paste to hard drive. Wait 10 minutes while the computer is copying the files.…

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Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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He's right. What surprises me is the readiness of people to put up with that shit. I'm not sure if their patience with horrible design is just a result of their ignorance.

You say "people" as though you don't put up with it too...

It's the same everywhere. Shit flows from the walls, up through the streets, through and within everything we interact with, because we've managed to build a civilisation on "that'll do" and "well, forever!" so far, and through some unlikely sequence of sheer fluke we're here to talk about it.

The internet is a bodge job. The web is a bodge job. This finely made bit of machinery I type this on is a bodge job - and so are my shoes, this chair, the postman outside, the tarmac on the street and the governance of our societies.

We put up with it because we go through a phase of learning "the way things are", and then go one of several ways:

- Accept and/or support the status quo

- Realise things could be better but realise that your task is so huge you cannot begin to do anything about it, and revert to the above.

- Try to work with others to change things for the better.

The third camp are the ones who make the bodge jobs, because they ultimately realise that time is the one true constraint, and you don't know what perfection is until you've seen it. We're solving a big old NP problem called "humanity" one excruciating step at a time.

Anyway, it's up to us to go make some better bodge jobs, which'll do for now, and not forever.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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I think that for some time now Google's services are mostly crap. For example when I upgraded KitKat to Lollipop they fucked up my calendar. No month view? Seriously? Plus it always vibrates since silent mode is gone. I found this out the hard way. My phone is always in silent mode and after the upgrade one day it just vibrated off the desk and the display broke. I should sue Google for this. Anyway back to your issu…

> I think that for some time now Google's services are mostly crap.

It seems a common feeling that is spreading during the last year... Already discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9074704

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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The new Apple Photos app + iPhone 6 = works, flawlessly

Funny, I was about to complain how I need two different applications to manage the files on a single device, how the drag and drop idiom is inconsistent across the two, and how I ended up having to use a completely different method (airdrop) just to get a photo from my macbook onto my iPhone so that I could paste it into a messaging app.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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10 years ago, you would have to pay a photographer to develop the photos and go to a fucking post office, then your mom would wait a week to receive them.

And he should be able to just plug his phone into his computer and pull the images right off with MTP. Don't know why that's so hard.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9524440
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