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Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by k-mcgrady »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #28
bluerobotcat wrote: post #20

The number of countries that you can enter without a visa might not be the best metric. For example, if you have a US or Signapore passport, you might be able to enter a lot of countries without a visa, but Brazil is not one of them. Brazil is obviously a hugely important country, so that seems like a notable disadvantage. EU citizens can enter Brazil without a visa. Additionally, there are several countries that hav…

China, Russia, India, Indonesia (With VOA) also require visas for Americans, often with retaliatory fees for the visa (they charge us what we charge them). I was surprised that I need a visa to go to austrailia, out of all places, though at least we can do it online...

>> "I was surprised that I need a visa to go to austrailia, out of all places"

Why?

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by k-mcgrady »

q_revert wrote: post #48
joosters wrote: post #29

Is there a way to get any information beyond the magic numbers on that site? e.g. a US passport allows entry to 147 countries, but can I list which ones? Or which ones it doesn't allow access to? Or what the difference is between two passports? Another possible index would be a reverse lookup per-country, showing how many other countries can visit it without a visa. Something like a 'country freedom index' or somesuc…

As an Irish citizen I was wondering which countries our British counterparts could get to that we couldn't :) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Visa_req... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Visa_req... compare -metric AE -fuzz 5% Visa_requirements_for_British_citizens.png Visa_requirements_for_Irish_citizens.png comparison.png http://i.imgur.com/QdCdb8r.png

Thanks for doing that comparison. It's particularly interesting for those of us up north who can carry both and Irish and British passport.

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by Terretta »

snitko wrote: post #52
Terretta wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming your friend lives in a democracy, and assuming your friend wants you randomly visiting, then if as you say your friend didn't vote on the immigration laws, tell them to be more active. Have them write to their politi-critters. Get the law revisited. If enough of your friend's friends also agitate and your neighbors generally agree or at least don't oppose, the law will be revised -- problem solved. If, on th…

It takes one to be in those shoes to see how despicable and humiliating the process of getting a visa is. If you were told you should tell your friends to vote better next time just so they can see you, I'd love to know how that would make you feel.

Here is how it makes me feel.

I've lived all over the world, and also work with many offshore teams in places that don't just take my passport.

I've had to get plenty visas. It's their country, I'm a guest. I fail to understand the insult.

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by avar »

bluerobotcat wrote: post #20

The number of countries that you can enter without a visa might not be the best metric. For example, if you have a US or Signapore passport, you might be able to enter a lot of countries without a visa, but Brazil is not one of them. Brazil is obviously a hugely important country, so that seems like a notable disadvantage. EU citizens can enter Brazil without a visa. Additionally, there are several countries that hav…

Passport goodwill is also another metric that's often overlooked. Would you rather have to apply for a visa to enter a few obscure countries on the planet, or regularly have to deal with scorn from border guards because your country bombed theirs within living memory?

As an aside you're misinformed about what Schengen is. Having a passport from a country in Schengen has nothing to do with being able to move to a different Schengen country per-se. You're thinking of the European Economic Area. Schengen is a passport-control free zone, whereas the EEA guarantees your freedom of movement between any EEA countries, regardless of whether or not you have to show your passport on arrival.

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by grecy »

Can we get the data behind this?

I need to start investigating the entrance requirements for myself into pretty much every country in Africa, and I have not found a convenient way to do so yet.

I have two passports, so I need to figure out which one is best in each country.

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by curun1r »

dklsf wrote: post #4

Doesn't look like the information on that site is correct. Or at least, it disagrees with https://www.henleyglobal.com/international-visa-restrictions... The differences are quite striking, the US isn't even in the top 10.

I would think that a Passport Power Index would include more than just where you can go visa-free. Things like availability of embassies and consular services would also factor in. Is your government going to intervene if you get into trouble abroad? If so, how effective are they at doing so? Can you buy property outside your own country? If so, how many countries allow it and are there any restrictions?

I think your link takes a very narrow definition into its rankings. I'm not sure how broad the index in the story is, but it seems to take into account more than just visa requirements.

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by 31reasons »

bane wrote: post #23

I've always thought this kind of comparison wasn't as meaningful as "how many square km of the planet does your passport grant you access to? Countries vary in size too much.

Maybe the power rank should be self-referencial. More higher power-rank country you can visit higher your power-rank.

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by sososoko »

wolfgke wrote: post #69

What I'd be interested in is a table of countries that I cannot/(can) enter with the country's passport. I couldn't find such a table.

Which country are you from? For me( a Zimbabwean) i rely on these:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Zimbabwean_citizens
  http://www.doyouneedvisa.com/passport/Zimbabwe

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by maxerickson »

grecy wrote: post #75

Can we get the data behind this? I need to start investigating the entrance requirements for myself into pretty much every country in Africa, and I have not found a convenient way to do so yet. I have two passports, so I need to figure out which one is best in each country.

They are pulling data from IATA, which offers an information site:

http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/

It isn't really very convenient for the use you propose (it returns info based on one passport-destination pair at a time).

Re: Passport Index – How much power does your passport have?

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Post by snitko »

Terretta wrote: post #73
snitko wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes one to be in those shoes to see how despicable and humiliating the process of getting a visa is. If you were told you should tell your friends to vote better next time just so they can see you, I'd love to know how that would make you feel.

Here is how it makes me feel. I've lived all over the world, and also work with many offshore teams in places that don't just take my passport. I've had to get plenty visas. It's their country, I'm a guest. I fail to understand the insult.

You fail to understand the insult because you don't value liberty and individualism. When you say "it's their country" it is misleading. It's as much theirs as it is the other's person who lives next to them and thinks visas and passports are bullshit. My country doesn't belong to me any more than the other person. Why should I and not the other person decide who can visit?
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