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Announcing the Surface 3

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by Vexs »

Someone1234 wrote: post #64
geerlingguy wrote: post #42

Actual product page: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3 And buy now page with tech specs: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... Looks like $499 for 64GB storage and 2GB RAM, $599 for 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM (WiFi models; 4G LTE model pricing wasn't showing for me).

That 2 GB, 64 GB model just looks painful to use. I've seen a lot of Windows installs use up more than 64 GB, in particular as WinSXS grows as more updates are installed (thus more duplicate DLLs are stored). If anyone asked me, I'd describe 128 GB as the "minimum" storage needed for Windows. And even then you aren't storing much if any user data on it. 4 GB is the minimum I'd run anything newer than Windows XP on. T…

I really can't even use a computer that's less than 4 gb these days, especially once chrome gets it's grubby hands all over my RAM. Just running baseline I find that most windows systems take up about two GB of RAM, and after you load up chrome, word, whatever; it hits the 4GB+ range. I mean, we're starting to see phones with 2GB of ram, it's completely unacceptable for a modern tablet.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by freehunter »

TheDong wrote: post #32
freehunter wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of off topic, but related: I recently bought an audio book from Humble Bundle and have been trying to figure out how to put it on my iPhone.I don't listen to audio books at home, only in the car or while I'm walking. Anyone know how to easily download an audiobook from Humble Bundle and put it on an iPhone to listen to later?

No it's not related. HN is not your tech support forum. Especially not for trivially google-able issues.

It's not trivial. They give me 50 mp3s in a zip folder. The guy was talking about troubles downloading an mp3 to an iOS device. Please, feel free to send me a LMGTFY that has a result showing how to open a zip file of mp3s on an iOS device without having iTunes on a desktop.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by huxley »

lmnm wrote: post #60

Granted this is anecdotal, but using a colleagues surface pro 2 recently was a frustrating experience. Keyboard had horrible response time and the device itself had a lag of a few seconds. Couldn't see myself using one anytime soon. That being said, I'll give the Surface 3 a test drive as I don't want to write off a new product based on the failings of its older siblings.

I've got a Surface Pro 2 which I use like an appliance (in my case, a mobile drawing tablet), it works well except for the alleged trackpad on the keyboard which is the absolute worst thing about it. Even the key travel I can live with, but the trackpad is awful.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by eropple »

[deleted] wrote: post #65
sz4kerto wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it runs windows, and I have no interest in that Then it's definitely not your device. It's main point is that it runs full Windows. If I were using Macbook + iPhone, I would not think at all about buying this. It's probably more interesting for people like me who want to work on Windows and/or Linux, but definitely nothing from Apple. :) (I have no problem with the company or the products in general, just they don'…

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Did you consider that, instead of a hive mind or something silly like that, your post was just overreaching and insulting in its phrasing? I mean, you might recall that I jumped in on that Amazon thread when somebody was calling you a liar. And I downvoted you here, because you were extrapolating your personal feelings to the market at large and kind of being a dink about it.

(And, seriously, Steve Jobs on styluses can get bent. You know why I have a stylus? Because I use Photoshop. These devices, and I say this as somebody who otherwise doesn't use Windows, are absolutely killer for that.)

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by imaginenore »

geerlingguy wrote: post #42

Actual product page: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3 And buy now page with tech specs: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... Looks like $499 for 64GB storage and 2GB RAM, $599 for 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM (WiFi models; 4G LTE model pricing wasn't showing for me).

For $500 I can get a real ultrabook.

Like Dell XPS 11

2560 x 1440 display

4GB RAM

128GB SSD

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/665236/Dell-XPS-11-XPS...

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by dman »

Vexs wrote: post #71
Someone1234 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That 2 GB, 64 GB model just looks painful to use. I've seen a lot of Windows installs use up more than 64 GB, in particular as WinSXS grows as more updates are installed (thus more duplicate DLLs are stored). If anyone asked me, I'd describe 128 GB as the "minimum" storage needed for Windows. And even then you aren't storing much if any user data on it. 4 GB is the minimum I'd run anything newer than Windows XP on. T…

I really can't even use a computer that's less than 4 gb these days, especially once chrome gets it's grubby hands all over my RAM. Just running baseline I find that most windows systems take up about two GB of RAM, and after you load up chrome, word, whatever; it hits the 4GB+ range. I mean, we're starting to see phones with 2GB of ram, it's completely unacceptable for a modern tablet.

How much RAM does the Ipad have?

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by microtonal »

Someone1234 wrote: post #30

I own a Surface Pro 3, and when I first got it I'd describe the experience as just mediocre. However Microsoft has been aggressively updating the software as has Intel, and as a result of those effects the SP3 has really stepped up and is now quite a good little tablet/ultrabook combo. I only have two remaining concerns with the SP3: My i5 version continues to get extremely hot near the middle of the device (e.g. whe…

Surface 3, Surface Pro 3, Surface 2 RT, uhh...

Well, at least it is better than before, when people bought a Surface tablet expecting it to run regular x86 desktop applications, because Windows. Having nearly the same name (Surface RT vs. Surface Pro) didn't really help.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by Someone1234 »

MCRed wrote: post #58
orf wrote: post #7

Looks interesting until I see that it's $499 in the US and $945 (£639) in the UK. Why! Edit: Was looking at the Surface Pro 3, the standard Surface is only ~$620. Not too bad I guess.

The UK charges taxes at all different levels of industry. This causes imported products to be more expensive. Happens to the products in the USA too, but the overall tax rate is lower.

Plus in the UK taxes (VAT) is included in the headline price, whereas in the US taxes are shown during checkout (although, yes, US tax is typically around 5%, as opposed to the UK's 20%).

I did a quick calculation and it seems like the UK is "only" being overcharged by $21/£15 when you take into account VAT. Which may exist due to exchange rate shifting and the additional regulatory costs perhaps.

PS - An extra 15% sales tax for free healthcare is a good trade if you ask me. But each to their own. :)

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