Smaller depiction of a larger malaise. Indian education system is simply the tip of the ice berg. The government and educational systems are just the small front face of corruption, that is in the Indian society today. The corruption you see in the form of exchange of money is minuscule when compared to moral corruption which has infected everyone here. Unfortunately you are likely to face far more worse kind of corr…
India students caught 'cheating' in exams in Bihar
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Re: India students caught 'cheating' in exams in Bihar
#72Most Indian kids have plenty of resources available to them and most parents in India would go hungry as compared to not provide the needed educational resources that were needed by the kids. Also, most Indian kids are super competitive and they have to be when their parents are always asking their rank in class.
Having said that, I don't think it really matters over the long term.
Here is my personal experience:
Growing up in India, cheating was not only accepted but encouraged. I did my high school in India and during the big board exams, I was one of very few students who didn't cheat - out of 200. Why? My dad (and some of the other parents) told us that if we cheated, they will kill us. During the exams, the teachers that were proctoring the exam came up to us repeatedly and asked if we needed help and trust me, it was tempting because you don't want to fall behind someone who is cheating.
There were and are a few factors at play. One is the emphasis on year-end exams. They are the only means of determining the students' performance. No papers to write, no projects, nothing else. Teachers are rated only on the success of their students in these year-end exams. Competition is very high. Parents (admittedly not all) are willing to do anything to help their kids get ahead. If you go to a school during exam time, very often you will see parents standing outside trying to pass notes through windows etc. I have heard of people who hid phones under their turbans in the exams and all kind of other crazy stories.
Now, here is why I don't think it matters. In the short term cheaters scored better but in the longer run, the few of us that didn't cheat came out ahead (small community so I know most of the people and where they are now). In hindsight, I am very glad that my dad didn't allow me to cheat. After that experience, I went to undergrad and grad school in the US and I did see cheating - Indians, Chinese, Americans - everyone cheated, some more blatantly than the others.
It didn't bother me because I strongly believed that in the longer terms those that didn't (and don't) cheat will come out ahead. So far, I haven't seen anything that has disproved that hypothesis.
Re: India students caught 'cheating' in exams in Bihar
#73It's like stealing. You might get by doing it, a few people might get by, but everyone can't steal for a living. Somewhere, someone has to be making the things that are stolen. And somewhere, someone has to have ideas and knowledge and drive to implement solutions. Everyone can't simply bullshit their way through life. But some people never figure this out.
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#74Re: India students caught 'cheating' in exams in Bihar
#75IMHO the real problem here since a long time is that exams have been demonstrated to be flawed. You can pass an exam and have no idea on the subject. The whole system is flawed, we need a new education system.
In this case, you need to propose something better in order to be taken seriously. Even companies like Coursera still use exams and quizzes heavily, presumably because they couldn't come up with anything better. The goal is to test whether someone has learned something. The most obvious way is to ask them a series of questions to confirm that they have learned it. There are some other obvious alternatives, like havin…