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Re: Google announces Android for Work

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sparaker wrote: post #50
pwnna wrote: post #37

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If your device is rooted, and by that I mean real rooted (bypassing SELinux), then it can get the encryption keys as at some point the data needs to be decrypted and viewable by you.

No you'd still need the crypt key to decode the data. Why do you assume this is stored on the device?

OK. Let's assume that key lives on Google's servers. Then, Google must send it back to the Android device that it cannot trust unencrypted (possibly in a httpd session, but that is irrelevant for this discussion. The pipe may be secure, but you poor the data in a pool that isn't secure)

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pasbesoin wrote: post #19

I suggest that anyone considering sharing a personal device with work activity (other than basic phone calls and messaging, e.g. "I'll be in late") think twice. Comes a security concern or conflict, someone's probably going to want access to the whole thing. If you want me to do "your work" on a phone -- particularly as an employee as opposed to as an independent contractor utilizing their own resources as defined in…

Where I work, they told us upfront "you can have your work email on your personal phone, but if we need to do an investigation for any reason, we're taking your personal phone". And they happily handed out work phones.

Of course, I've worked in security in other companies where employees had their work email and data on their personal devices, and in the event of a security incident we were not allowed to touch their personal devices even though there was work data on it. So it goes both ways.

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Post by Mahn »

RyJones wrote: post #47
robotresearcher wrote: post #17

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"Google Play for Work" is as bad as "Playstation" is good. They really shouldn't let this awkward branding stuff happen.

I worked on Windows Live Mobile for Windows Mobile. Thankfully it was renamed.

Could be worse. I still remember when Microsoft maintained both "Windows Messenger" and "MSN Messenger" as separate apps with separate update schedules and version numbers even though it was the same product. That was confusing.

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Post by mmebane »

patcon wrote: post #51
scottjad wrote: post #40

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When you deny them, roughly how often in your experience does this cause the app to crash or display an error?

Doesn't crash, but sometimes apps seem to be created under the assumption their permission request isn't creating a popup, so there are sometimes like 10 in a row, so the user will often give up and just either blanket deny or accept EDIT:an "allow for 10 min" option would resolve this

The lack of a "for 10 minutes"-type option is, IMO, the biggest failing of Privacy Guard. XPrivacy is better in that regard, but was harder to use overall when I last tried it.

XPrivacy does have the benefit of making it easy to provide realistic-looking fake data, which I believe the CyanogenMod team is against.

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Post by mmebane »

api wrote: post #63
benologist wrote: post #36

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Desktops don't mean any of those things, crappy old computers with none of your characteristics are very common. Technology has improved significantly in the 3 - 4 years since Motorola made theirs, and Ubuntu's failed as a crowdsourcing campaign. Nothing has been proven.

I interpreted Ubuntu's failure more a statement of lack of confidence in the ability of Ubuntu to execute on this idea than as a statement against the idea's ultimate potential. Samsung, Google, Apple, or Nokisoft (MS+Nokia) could do it.

I think Microsoft could be in a position to do this with Windows 10. It certainly seems to me like it would be the next logical step after the Surface Pro.

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Post by sliverstorm »

Bjartr wrote: post #64
ChuckMcM wrote: post #60

This would be a lot more compelling if, when I got a Google voice voicemail and saw that in my Gmail app on my "Google Experience" Moto-G and clicked on the "listen to it" link it didn't just vanish leaving me with an open browser and no message. I like my phone, it works for me, but the sheer disconnectedness of it all is really jarring. Things show up in random places, or not at all, (especially media), and there i…

> same text message appears in my GVoice app, my Gmail app, and as a text message in Messaging. The "official" way to deal with this is to go to the Google Voice site and turn of emailing yourself every text. Then install the Hangouts app and enable SMS through Hangouts. Then disable notifications in the Google Voice and Messaging apps. Result: On phone Hangouts handles texts + voicemail + Google chat, and on desktop…

You don't need Google Voice at all anymore (that I am aware of) and Messaging just goes to sleep when you make Hangouts your SMS app.

GV integration is not the most seamless perfect experience ever (for example, incoming IP calls go straight to voicemail when I'm on corporate WiFi) but I'm fairly pleased with it.

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

pwnna wrote: post #37
sparaker wrote: post #20

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Not if it is encrypted.

If your device is rooted, and by that I mean real rooted (bypassing SELinux), then it can get the encryption keys as at some point the data needs to be decrypted and viewable by you.

Encryption keys can be hidden in a way that is next to impossible to decipher. Superfish level of insecurity doesn't have to be the norm. The downside is that there are no open source libraries that make this possible which is why few people know about it.

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Post by notatoad »

noconflict wrote: post #61

Does this mean we'll get Google Now cards for non-gmail accounts now?

do you really want Google to be reading all the mail on your non-gmail accounts? If you want that, you can set up forwarding on your non-gmail account to send all your mail to a gmail account, and you'll get cards.

Personally, i'd rather have the option for google to not read some of my mail.

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