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Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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How accurate is glassdoor? If I look at my city, for my position, inside my own company it seems highly inaccurate. Either that or I'm paid half of what everyone else makes, which seems unlikely. According to this site indeed seems probably even more inflated.

Then I can't figure out what the incentive to inflate your salary would be when reporting it to glassdoor unless companies are doing it themselves.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

#72
post #46

How about Chiang Mai or other city with large digital nomad community?

You won't be pulling in any local income in those cities (all work would be remote, you would be dodging thai taxes on income taxed in a western country), so it wouldn't be a very realistic comparison.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

#73
post #56

Can someone explain the numbers, I see averages of $100K/year for developers and then keep hearing of freelancers raking $150-$200/hour ($300K/year). How can this be ?

Companies pay benefits on top of salary. According to my company the cost for me is $208 per hour for "total compensation". I don't know how they come to that number but it seems unlikely. I generally bill out at about $100 more per hour. I make somewhere between 1/8 - 1/10 of that in actual hourly rate. The thing that really gets me is that I work salary but if I work over 40 hours in week they still considered that as a $208/hour loss even though they pay me nothing. Then I'm "over budget".

Freelancers have to charge higher rates because of lack of benefits and because they can charge $200 per hour and still be cheaper than me. Freelancers have cost that aren't directly passed on in an employee relationship. You're also assuming all freelancers have 40 hours of work each week, which is probably unlikely. Now you have me dreaming of working 20 hours a week and making what I make now. Hell, I'd like to get to 6 figures in my 50+ hour per week corporate job.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

#76

I suspect the cost of living data for Austin trails reality by some significant margin. The sources don't indicate the age of the data, but even if it's only a couple of years old, it's going to be wrong by enough to be a factor. I have lived in Austin for a couple of years, and also lived here (and owned a house here) about 8 years ago. The cost of homes here has gone up tremendously since then. I was shopping for a…

Sometimes we're provincially biased, though. What you describe is not all that unusual nationwide.

And not to point out the obvious, but five years ago was rock bottom for this nation's economy (and housing market). I don't think that's a fair comparison, even if it is Mountain View v. Austin.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

#77

what's the difference between engineer & developer ?

One's called an engineer, and the other is called a developer.

The difference is supposed to be that an engineer works more in the design of software than the developer, who works more on the implementation. In reality, the difference is rarely that concrete and generally the two are interchangeable for many people in the middle of the overall bell curve.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

#78
post #61

A shame Detroit was not included. Salaries are similar to Chicago and CoL is much lower, although probably not as low as Raleigh.

I would think people would pay to get out of Detroit.

I lived in Detroit until the mid 80's, now Chicago, but just went back for the first time with a touristic mindset. I met software developers from New York, Boston, and San Francisco who had moved TO Detroit and liked it. Detroit overall is as horrible as the media says, but the central core, which includes a big university, medical center, and downtown, is livable, bikable, and.... just cool.

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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post #37
post #22

Has anyone done something similar for Europe or other parts of the world?

Yeah, I'd love to see the said for London, Paris and say Brussels and Madrid. I'm pretty sure we'd have surprises (or maybe not ...)

This doesn't have developer salaries, but might be of interest. Edit: Forgot the link: http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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post #63

I've lived in several of these cities briefly (Seattle, Austin), and a long-term (Raleigh, NYC). If you can put up with the car culture - which you have to if you want to live outside of NYC or Chicago - Raleigh is a great city. Very low cost of living, a burgeoning downtown night-life and cultural scene, and very warm, likable people. Austin has a much better downtown, but I'd be concerned about traffic moving there…

Raleigh's location also opens up a lot of roadtrip options, too: It is just several hours from the nation's capital, the outer bank islands, the Appalachian Mountains, and "big city" events at Charlotte and/or Atlanta. When going to the mountains or beaches, there are the options of exploring something more commercialized (Boone, Wrightsville Beach) or more rural (Cape Hatteras National Seashore, Maggie Valley, etc).
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