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Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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Knowing first hand google support I will stick to namecheap ...

I like everything about namecheap, except the name. I hate having to mention their company name to a customer who I'm managing the domain for. It sounds like I'm using a discount service from the bottom of the barrel when that's really not how the company operates. It would be nice if I could refer to a parent company with a more appealing name.

Funny you should mention that. At my previous employer I needed to buy some domains and our current registrar was simply horrifyingly terrible (like $30 per sub-domain, yes you read that right: sub-domain. Bad support. Payment issues. Their website had issues in general) so when they asked me for alternatives I gave them NameCheap, and the biggest sticking point was the name (and how it didn't sound professional).

We did eventually go with NameCheap and had no issues. But the name definitely does them more harm than good for business users.

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Private registration usually costs extra, but not with Google domains. That is a compelling reason to me. I also like the clean interface, some of the other vendors have horrible interfaces.

Private registration has always been free at gandi.net. Also they do not suck. https://www.gandi.net/domain/whois/

Yea, but their domain registion prices are high. I have always appreciated the honesty/integrity/simplicity of gandi though.

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None of Google Domain's features are novel. In fact the article spent most of its time talking about an up-sell. Which isn't to say Google Domain isn't a good product, just that we now should look at price because nothing else seems interesting... ~ Google Domains charges $12/year for .COM, .NET, .ORG. ~ NameCheap charges $10.69/year for .COM, $11.98/year for .NET, and $11.48/year for .ORG. Sometimes with an 18c/year…

they do include private whois, and X subdomains for your domain, X emails available... but game changing would include SSL for all, or free hosting from your google drive - even if it was just static content. it's a classic google "me too" project. i always get the feeling a lot of google projects come up because someone somewhere is going to be in a high level meeting with execs, and one exec sees something interest…

> game changing would include SSL for all

Let's Encrypt is going to be doing that later this year anyway.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/certificate-authority-...

https://letsencrypt.org/

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The dealbreaker for us with NameCheap/eNom is simple: still no DNSSEC. It's been how many years now? And all they say is "we're working on it" and have no ETA. So we moved most things to Gandi. Feels good having no GoDaddy, however.

Seriously? I'm surprised to see you of all people write that. No DNSSEC is a feature, not a bug.

Care to elaborate on DNSSEC? I've been interested in seeing wider adoption of DNSSEC for things like DANE.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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With standard registration, the site is registered to you with ICANN. With private registration, it is registered to your registrar and you are provided access. Whois will show their info. Note that this means you are technically not the owner of the domain, and you may be limited in your ability to transfer it, sell it, or do other things with it. Permissions are limited to what the registrar allows instead of what…

> Note that this means you are technically not the owner of the domain, and you may be limited in your ability to transfer it, sell it, or do other things with it. This is a myth. ICANN has published requirements on how private registrations must operate; ownership of the domain always goes to the paying owner, not the registrar.

That's interesting. Do you know where the requirements are published? I've read language recently from at least one registrar specifically stating that private registration prevents transfers to other registrars. Maybe this was before these new requirements were published.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

#76

Knowing first hand google support I will stick to namecheap ...

+1 Shitty Google support is the reason I won't even consider this as an option for my domains

Also an issue is what ends up becoming benign neglect after the new shiny ball is no longer fun. That actually is my biggest concern. Example is google voice which is frozen in time.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

#77

Knowing first hand google support I will stick to namecheap ...

With first hand experience: - if you are paying google on an ongoing basis for something (adwords for example) they are very pro active with support. - if you are using a free product, expect 0 or less support - if you are receiving money from google, expect active hostility.

This is partly why they should add "premium" support to the Play Store for developers. Right now their free support for their almost free developer accounts (one time $25 is "free" in this context) is just atrociously bad, and the only way to fix it is to fund more human support personnel.

If I was a developer bringing in several thousand a year on the Play Store, I'd happily shell out $99/year for better support. I imagine I am not alone in that.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

#78

None of Google Domain's features are novel. In fact the article spent most of its time talking about an up-sell. Which isn't to say Google Domain isn't a good product, just that we now should look at price because nothing else seems interesting... ~ Google Domains charges $12/year for .COM, .NET, .ORG. ~ NameCheap charges $10.69/year for .COM, $11.98/year for .NET, and $11.48/year for .ORG. Sometimes with an 18c/year…

It's not compelling, it just fills the gap, as mentioned. It gives them more info to adjust their search algorithms and weed out bad apples imo. Now they know who has registered even private domains. Make an inadvertent "bad move" on one domain/site, and they will be killing traffic to everything you own.

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Seriously? I'm surprised to see you of all people write that. No DNSSEC is a feature, not a bug.

Care to elaborate on DNSSEC? I've been interested in seeing wider adoption of DNSSEC for things like DANE.

Asking the compromised DNS server if it's been compromised is a really good way to find out if it's been compromised.
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