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Re: The Pirate Bay is counting down

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The solution exists for years: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/

I don't eat meat and I don't use adblockers - both habits make me feel morally superior ;)

Why do you think adblockers are immoral? Genuine question, not trying to stand on some moral high ground, just curious of your opinion, is all.

Re: The Pirate Bay is counting down

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I don't eat meat and I don't use adblockers - both habits make me feel morally superior ;)

Why do you think adblockers are immoral? Genuine question, not trying to stand on some moral high ground, just curious of your opinion, is all.

Ads are part of a social contract you have with the publisher of the site.

Re: The Pirate Bay is counting down

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I don't eat meat and I don't use adblockers - both habits make me feel morally superior ;)

Why do you think adblockers are immoral? Genuine question, not trying to stand on some moral high ground, just curious of your opinion, is all.

This debate has been done to death on HN but the short version is that people who use ad blockers are essentially freeloading on people who don't block them. For many websites, no ads = no revenue = no content/service.

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Don't use abp. You should read this trough Google Translate maybe: http://www.mobilegeeks.de/adblock-plus-undercover-einblicke-...

Is there any evidence that they're doing anything sleazy? This seems like a crackpot conspiracy theory, not actual news.

No it's really like that. Advertisers habe the possibility to get white listed. But they have to pay for it.

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Why do you think adblockers are immoral? Genuine question, not trying to stand on some moral high ground, just curious of your opinion, is all.

Ads are part of a social contract you have with the publisher of the site.

Ads are a form of manipulation that somehow we have been convinced is acceptable for the mere act of reading.

Re: The Pirate Bay is counting down

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Why do you think adblockers are immoral? Genuine question, not trying to stand on some moral high ground, just curious of your opinion, is all.

Ads are part of a social contract you have with the publisher of the site.

I'm suspicious of products that are heavily promoted. If anything, I'm doing the ad purchaser a favour by not having their blinking ads shoved down my throat.

Pretty much any form of animation on a page causes me to stop reading it, until I can find some way of eliminating it. Too many ads are animated to risk going without an adblocker, flash blocking and disabling of autoplay etc.

And it's not just ads. It's currently fashionable to have all sorts of slide overs as you near the end of an article. Those cause me to stop reading too, until I've killed the elements that caused the slide over. Similarly with floating page headers (vertical space is at a premium), floating social button menus, etc.

And of course, then there's custom fonts. For years, I viewed the web with custom font downloading disabled, until the near ubiquity of FontAwesome forced me to concede. But I still run a plugin to disable font choices, and will run pages through a Readable bookmarklet if the designer has prioritized style over legibility.

I don't really see the relationship between me and site publishers as a social contract. It's much more hostile than that. They try to ram an incredible amount of crap into my sensory input, and I defend myself from their assault every way I can.

Re: The Pirate Bay is counting down

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I don't eat meat and I don't use adblockers - both habits make me feel morally superior ;)

Why do you think adblockers are immoral? Genuine question, not trying to stand on some moral high ground, just curious of your opinion, is all.

Kant's categorical imperative:

> Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law.

If everyone blocked ads the websites that rely on ad revenue would lose money and have to shut down.

Sure, if only some of the users block ads they can probably survive, but someone had to see the ads. How do I justify that I get to block ads while others don't?

That said, without adblock I do find NoScript to be a necessity when navigating some parts of the web (e.g. TPB), which has the side effect of being a sort-of ad-block. But that I can live with.

Re: The Pirate Bay is counting down

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Why do you think adblockers are immoral? Genuine question, not trying to stand on some moral high ground, just curious of your opinion, is all.

This debate has been done to death on HN but the short version is that people who use ad blockers are essentially freeloading on people who don't block them. For many websites, no ads = no revenue = no content/service.

There's a difference between ads and ads that are likely to end up loading malware with a few accidental clicks or distasteful ads for pornography, or ads that talk, or ads that do all three.

"Are you a boy or a girl?" Popping up when I'm in my office at home is something that makes me want to use adblock. And I don't use adblock.

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