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PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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I used to be a Flash developer, now a Javascript developer. Everything that was raised as an issue with flash (except web's open nature) is now an issue with Javascript development today. Preloaders, skip intros, single page apps, browser back button issues, SEO incompatibility. all of it. loving this.

The point is not (merely) the technology behind it, it's the agencies' model of selling the customers "rich internet sites" whose main point is to show off to other people that you have pockets full of money.

A good intro can help to sell your site project to a customer (and help them selling it to their superiors), but no longtime user would protest if you took it away.

Single page apps are a way to fit in an interaction model that doesn't fit the idea of "one address, one page, one text" that was the idea behind the Web in the first place. So, yes, you give up some of the benefits of the Web (navigation with bookmarks, back button) or have to fight hard to get them back, while keeping others (mostly, platform independence and a built-in client-server architecture)

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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post #6

Why is this any different than Flash preloaders just a moment ago? And even worse - it doesn't show any progress so there isn't any user feedback. Every (bad) pattern seems to repeat itself. Just using current-cool-tech. I would much more appreciate that dev time would be put into a framework that allows graceful enchancement by deferring loading more heavy components and to allow user to interact with the site ASAP.…

Yeah, because I really want people to interact with my game before everything is fully loaded. Great idea.

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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post #6

Why is this any different than Flash preloaders just a moment ago? And even worse - it doesn't show any progress so there isn't any user feedback. Every (bad) pattern seems to repeat itself. Just using current-cool-tech. I would much more appreciate that dev time would be put into a framework that allows graceful enchancement by deferring loading more heavy components and to allow user to interact with the site ASAP.…

> Why is this any different than Flash

I agree and raise you the point that this is Chrome-only, and doesn't even bother to mention it. Half of the spinners fail to work in Firefox stable.

I know they didn't write the spinners, but the company seems targeted at teaching:

> Pathgather is an NYC-based startup building a platform that dramatically accelerates learning for enterprises

Platform lock-in on the Web is an odd thing to teach.

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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post #6

Why is this any different than Flash preloaders just a moment ago? And even worse - it doesn't show any progress so there isn't any user feedback. Every (bad) pattern seems to repeat itself. Just using current-cool-tech. I would much more appreciate that dev time would be put into a framework that allows graceful enchancement by deferring loading more heavy components and to allow user to interact with the site ASAP.…

Flash won.

HTML 5 is the web remaking itself in the image of Flash.

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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I can't believe that this post got upvoted 140 times on HN. Only one day left to 2015 and we have distribution networks, abroad datacenters. Are we still not able to build a system which doesn't require a loading screen? What a shame...

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect it's because people feel better about themselves and have a happier outlook when they receive compliments. These warm fuzzies are associated with the product / setting, positively affecting people's opinion of the service. I'm not sure why you're confused -- is it because things aren't the way that you think they should be? To me, the explanation above is pretty concise and fits the situation neatly.

I guess I wasn't seriously questioning the reasons why they would do it. It does make sense but isn't there some point where complimenting your customers to make them feel all warm could go "too far"? I'm pretty laid back with not very high expectations of customer service (not a pessimistic person, just easy to please) and it just comes off as rather excessive, at least with the way it's presented. This probably com…

As a European, I hate the false friendliness you get from waiters and shop staff in the States. Give me a grumpy Spanish waiter any day.

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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No. It's not beautiful. Stop saying that! That word is so overused in software that it is no devoid of all meaning. It's a loading screen. It's perhaps even a nice looking loading screen. Well, it's not ugly. It is missing a lot of functionality though. But it's less rage inducing than the spinning pin wheel so that's good I guess. 2015 would be a better year if we all agreed to stop using the word beautiful with res…

Can a loading screen not be beautiful? Would the world really be a better place if we all said "very pretty" instead of "beautiful"? Maybe you just don't like it as much as other people do. That just means your tastes differ, not that others are abusing language.

I suspect the parent is disappointed by the lack of ambition, or maybe thinks that the PleaseWait authors are just trying to get eyeballs on their site.

The animations are pretty bog-standard, let's be honest. I'd stretch to calling them aesthetically pleasing, but there's no way I'd describe them as beautiful.

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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I can't believe that this post got upvoted 140 times on HN. Only one day left to 2015 and we have distribution networks, abroad datacenters. Are we still not able to build a system which doesn't require a loading screen? What a shame...

It's hard to fix slow clients that require tons of data and resources, but feed a desire for apps to do crazy things, and limited dev time. Trade offs have to be made somewhere, a loading screen at the beginning of an application is one of them.

Re: PleaseWait.js – Show your users a beautiful loading page while your app loads

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post #75
post #6

Why is this any different than Flash preloaders just a moment ago? And even worse - it doesn't show any progress so there isn't any user feedback. Every (bad) pattern seems to repeat itself. Just using current-cool-tech. I would much more appreciate that dev time would be put into a framework that allows graceful enchancement by deferring loading more heavy components and to allow user to interact with the site ASAP.…

Flash won. HTML 5 is the web remaking itself in the image of Flash.

Ah, good old down votes rather than explaining why you think I'm wrong.

HTML 5 is an attempt to turn the web browser into a replacement for the Flash Player. Punch the Monkey Flash ads are replaced with Punch the Monkey HTML 5 ads.

Javascript framework after framework comes and implements the Flash way of doing things in the browser.

And the irony is that Flex is still the best way of producing RIAs years after Adobe killed it.

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