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Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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Most of the advise here seems to be along the lines of: "I was rejected from Google too, don't take it too personal". This post got a lot of upvotes, because this is an experience many people can relate to. I read your previous post at: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8185085 and based on that I wanted to give you hopefully a little bit more personal advise. That said, I don't know much about you and personal si…

This takes my breathe away. I'm pretty much like what you're saying. I’m lost and need to focus on different thing. I know it is bad when I think like I'm from poor family and I carry responsibility everywhere I go. I felt like I am an underdog until I got to interview with these top companies. I think I expected myself to get the job because I want to feel like ''yay!, I made it''. I’m still pretty sure that I want…

I am glad you found it helpful. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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Even though the title is about dealing with Failed interview at G & A, I think the OP needs a different sort of advice. You can get into a hole in your life, more than once and for various different reasons (failing at interviews being just one of them). This is more about dealing with life. Life that can be harsh and unforgiving. Exposure to Mass Media on a 24/7 basis has changed us as persons. It has made us take e…

salute! "a better strategy is to get on with it with a sort of calm, peaceful acceptance of things, even when they are negative" and clear noise and relax. I did went offline for 7 days. feel much fresher!

Another perspective, if I may: you write that you've been taking care of your family since you were in school, and have made it through a rough life to be considered a candidate for both Google and AWS? You're Awesome! What do you care about those companies and their broken interview processes?

A personal anecdote I just went through this week: a few years ago, I lost an interview with a company I really wanted to work for. Part of the reason I wanted to work there was that a lot of people I knew and respected worked there, and they seemed very happy when I visited for the interview. I was pretty down after that. This week one of the people who worked there reached out, and among other things we discussed, it appears he had a horrible time there, and there was no reason for me to feel down about not being accepted. Also, I spent this past summer as an intern at Google, and while I don't want to start the usual "is Google still a cool place to work at" fights here, I do feel comfortable writing that my own very subjective conclusion is that one can get stuck at an uninteresting role at Google, like in any other company.

Keep meditating, and keep being awesome.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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When I was 25, I got rejected by both Facebook and Microsoft and felt really bad about it, but it's only been a couple of years and my career is now light-years ahead of ahead where I ever hoped it would be. As several others have said, the fact that you didn't get an offer doesn't mean you weren't good enough, it probably means you weren't a fit. And if you weren't a fit, it means that long-term it's better for both you and the company if you work somewhere else. So even though I completely understand your disappointment, know that you're just still looking for the right fit, and a couple of years from now you're probably going to look back and be really happy with how things worked out somewhere other than Google or Amazon.

I'm very sorry that you lost your brother. Losing a family member is always a sad thing, but if it's causing you to have nightmares and lose sleep you should try talking to someone. If this has been going on for a long time you might have depression that won't get better by just 'dealing with it'. I'd suggest you find someone you feel comfortable talking to about it in person: maybe a friend, or family member, or a therapist. But get some help - depression makes everything seem worse than it is, and if you can get on top of how you feel, not only will you feel better, but it'll probably help your job search too.

Good luck - and don't feel alone. A lot of us have been through these same kinds of things and know it does get better, even though it kinda sucks right now.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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When I was 25, I got rejected by both Facebook and Microsoft and felt really bad about it, but it's only been a couple of years and my career is now light-years ahead of ahead where I ever hoped it would be. As several others have said, the fact that you didn't get an offer doesn't mean you weren't good enough, it probably means you weren't a fit. And if you weren't a fit, it means that long-term it's better for both…

Thank you for your kind message. I think my problem is I don't know how to ''share'' feeling with people around me. In my whole life I have been the only one person my family can rely on both mentally and physically. I only know to be stronger and never give up and I never show feeling with people around me. I just let go and focus on positive thing that I can make it happen.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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When I was 25, I got rejected by both Facebook and Microsoft and felt really bad about it, but it's only been a couple of years and my career is now light-years ahead of ahead where I ever hoped it would be. As several others have said, the fact that you didn't get an offer doesn't mean you weren't good enough, it probably means you weren't a fit. And if you weren't a fit, it means that long-term it's better for both…

Thank you for your kind message. I think my problem is I don't know how to ''share'' feeling with people around me. In my whole life I have been the only one person my family can rely on both mentally and physically. I only know to be stronger and never give up and I never show feeling with people around me. I just let go and focus on positive thing that I can make it happen.

I'm sure it goes against the grain if you're used to being the one everyone depends on, but please just never feel like you really can't talk to anyone. By all means keep focusing on the positive as long as that's working for you, but if you feel like you need more than you have to give, it can be as simple as just stating facts like you've done here. Having trouble sleeping? Bad dreams? Keep having negative thoughts? Just say so. You don't have to open up all your emotions for someone to see you need a bit of support.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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Thank you everyone for your kind advice and encouragement. I really appreciate and can not express how much I feel thankful for this with my limited English. Since my older brother pass away. I never show weakness to anyone even my family. I just don't know how to be miserable or share negativity with people around me. (Please allow me to be drama, please ignore if you don't like it.) Everyone sees me as a smart and strong person and they can rely on me and I'm happy with that. I'm happy when people around me is happy. But why I'm too emotional so much now about Google and Amazon because, I realised, actually, I wanted to be accepted. I was thinking if I get the job, I'll make more money so that my mom will stop asking me to marry with the guy I don't know(in Thai culture, when a guy marry with a woman, a gloom has to pay money to a bride family), just accept who I am. I want my dad stop worrying about me and be proud of who I am. I want my brothers to have a better education, better than I had, be a better person than I am. And everybody just be happy. That's all I want in life. I just complain. And I know this hard time will pass as I always pass so many storms. Just this time, I expected myself too much so it hurt so much, and I couldn't figure out how to handle this drama emotional. time heals... One thing I know, to me, failure is just an event but not an identity. It happen, I acknowledge and experience that I'm sad, depressed, cry if it necessary. Then detach from it, put my shit together and move on. I can only imagine I will be a batter person than I was. I will try better with SoftLayer on upcoming interview soon. And if I fail again, it is totally fine because I already feel thankful for any opportunities I was given. Thank you and goodluck everyone!!! :)

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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I don't know if it helps, but I interviewed twice at a large company here in Melbourne (for a role as a contract developer). The first time I was rejected for being "too opinionated" for the likely team I'd be in, second time I was accepted. And I'd say the first rejection was spot on too, I don't think I'd have been a good fit for that team. Bear in mind that a 'failed interview' isn't necessarily a failure on your…

Insightful. "Bad fit for particular job" != "poor candidate in general" Sometimes the interviewer can see this better than the candidate.

And note that one of the companies mentioned by the OP (Google) is very up-front about screening for "culture fit".

Sometimes people get hired and then get very unhappy with their "fit" in the company or the way things are done. Some people leave within 3 months. It's nice when they screen to avoid that.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#79
I recently went through a particularly brutal round of failed interviews myself that left me reeling and pretty self-conscious about my ability. I made it through till the last round for 4 companies (one that flew me from DC->SF) and didn't get an offer from a single one. A couple of them I spent hours/days on coding projects/samples too, and 3/4 of them I really thought I had done well enough for an offer. I am still kind of recovering from it and haven't entertained an interview opportunity in a couple months, and truthfully I didn't cut a line of code outside of work for close to a month. I'm still slowly getting back into the swing of things, but I'm getting back into the swing of things. The sting of failure hurts, for damn sure; you try to separate your ego/self from the process and know that the interviewing process is a crapshoot, but it still gets to me and I imagine most people. Sounds like if you've made it that far and was even asked to interview with G and A, you're going to be just fine down the road. As others have said in the thread - with time, you'll start to feel better, just keep on keepin' on.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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Thank you everyone for your kind advice and encouragement. I really appreciate and can not express how much I feel thankful for this with my limited English. Since my older brother pass away. I never show weakness to anyone even my family. I just don't know how to be miserable or share negativity with people around me. (Please allow me to be drama, please ignore if you don't like it.) Everyone sees me as a smart and…

This is real mothership of drama queen. writing last night while I was drunk.so embarrassing and can not delete it. oh well. All I want to say is thank you everyone for your advice, sharing, encouraging!
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