I live outside of a town with a large tech culture. I often wonder if a large part of success is just being around the right community. So you are getting a lot of feedback and have real connections to gain information from. I wonder what the best way to find/make a community like that in my area would be or if I am just out of luck and should be somewhere that already has a large tech culture. I am in South FL btw.
Hey, another SFL hacker! I definitely think community helps you. The feedback and connections must be great, but for me the biggest benefit is just the motivation it provides. Having a community, large or small, that shares my interests keeps me driven, and I don't feel like I have that here. It feels very lonely and discouraging to spend 12 hours on a Saturday banging out a personal project, and then not know anyone…
Lecture 3: How to Start a Startup
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're notes in Markdown: http://markdownshare.com/view/c97aed92-513d-46f0-b097-0fb12e...
Strangely, I find it easier to read as an HN comment. Maybe related to the font ?
Personally, I use stackedit.io
Re: Lecture 3: How to Start a Startup
#73I really can see that from his experience in Silicon Valley PG gave a view of what he has actually seen in how startup ideas are or have been found. I have to respect most of what he said.
Still, from some of what he said, I have a tough time taking him literally: E.g., as I recall from the lecture, he indicated that early on Google was just a little thing, just a small interest, or some such.
However, also, as is well-known, even in the early days of Google even as just an idea, Internet search was already widely regarded as an important need and problem. Without checking dates, there was, what, Lycos and Yahoo!, maybe more?
Without means of search, the Internet was like being in the world's biggest library with all the books, etc. just in a big pile. For libraries, the solution has long been the library card catalog, especially the subject index. So I have to suspect that, even in the beginnings of the idea for Google, the founders did understand that what they were working on was possibly important as a business.
Next, the lecture did mention that Ron Conway wrote Google an early check: I have to believe that Conway took the future of Google fully seriously.
From all I know, Facebook, Microsoft, Cisco, Intel, etc. all knew early on, at the beginning of the idea or not long after, that they were trying to make a successful business.
But the lecture seemed to be suggesting that at the start an idea is hardly more than a toy or curiosity.
Next there was,
> The way to get startup ideas is not to think about having good startups ideas: you’ll get bad and plausible ideas that will end up wasting your time.
> To have a good idea, take a step back and don’t even try.
While I can believe that PG has plenty of examples where startups followed this advice and were successful, still I'm shocked and have a tough time swallowing that this advice is the only way to be successful or that, in particular, always any effort to find a good idea
> will end up wasting your time.
Instead, I'd like to build on PG's
> What you really need to learn are your users’ needs.
Now I'm on board!
But then I want to go farther: Okay, not everyone has to go along with my next thinking, and here is some of why: First, there's not just one way to "skin a cat" or be successful. Second, and something I regard as very important for successful startups, as we know too well, a really successful startup is rare, so rare that we have to suspect that, not all, but some of the most successful startups will be taking approaches that are new and with few or no examples from the past, say, 30 years in Silicon Valley venture funded startups.
Moreover, if a startup looks close to what has been tried, and even worked, before, then we have to be suspicions and question if that "what" should be tried again instead of something new.
But, broad strokes, aside, let's try to be more definite:
Step (1) Need.
Assume we've seen some users' need. Suppose we use some judgment here and accept only a genuine need. Such a need might be, say, a safe, effective, cheap one pill taken once to cure any cancer. Yup, that's definitely a need -- no question. We want a need so serious that we can be quite sure, e.g., the pill, that the first good or a much better solution will be a must have and not just a nice to have. So, we pick a need.
Now I narrow the scope: We want to exploit Moore's law and the Internet and do have a need that, at least for its solution, is in information technology. One reason: Can send to the users just bits, and those sent just over the Internet.
Step (2) Solution.
With the need, we try to find the first good or a much better solution. If we fail, as we likely would for years on a cure for cancer, or, in information technology, a project were we needed an algorithm that shows that P = NP, we return to Step (1) and find another genuine need.
Step (3) How to
So, how can we find a solution?
Well, here's my suggestion: Right, even with PG's broad experience, the suggestion may so far never have been seen even by PG in Silicon Valley. So, in this sense we're talking something new, and we keep in mind that we should not be reluctant to pursue something new since being new and different is from maybe good up to crucial for the rare, big successes in the future.
But for something new, we very much want some evidence of, say, efficacy, or will that dog hunt?
So, we have a problem, and we want a solution, in information technology, and a solution we have high confidence in, even before we start writing software. So, where can we find examples of doing that? Sure: The US DoD. They've been doing that with, comparatively, a great batting average for 70+ years, that is, finding solutions that well informed people can have high confidence in before starting implementation.
So, we have
Lesson 1: By example, it's actually possible, and in the US DoD quite common, nearly standard, to find solutions that well informed people can have high confidence in before starting implementation.
Now, this lesson, and the fairly obvious DoD examples, e.g., the SR-71, were often quite expensive to implement. But, there is also
Lesson 2: The implementation work commonly was routine, that is, low risk, maybe expensive but, still, low risk.
More of my suggestion: It can be good, when we can, to convert the work of finding the solution to a mathematical problem where, if the math is correct, then we are quite sure the solution is correct and, quite likely, effective as a solution for the need.
Advantages here include: (A) The math has a good chance of being done just on paper by just one person, with very low "burn rate". (B) The math is comparatively easy to check for correctness. (C) Since we have assumed that our startup is in information technology, a solution based on math has a big natural advantage; e.g., maybe the implementation is just software with no metal bending, team of thousands, big buildings, etc.
So (1)-(3) is my suggestion for insight into how to find a good idea for a startup.
So, where is this suggestion for finding a startup idea unclear, wrong?
Re: Lecture 3: How to Start a Startup
#74Am I the only person who ever found the course list for an MBA genuinely interesting ? Like, intellectually so. I get the general usefulness of advising undergraduates that MBAs are, in general, a bad idea for them. They're certainly about as poor of a financial investment these days as a degree in English. But the hopeless idealist in me asks if it isn't possible to get an MBA to actually try to theorize about custo…
This comment struck a chord for me. Me (and most of my friends) are about to transition out of the military. After 5 years of literally living a different world, but still being intellectually curious but with no (obvious) technical skills...for a lot of us getting an MBA seems to be the only option to "learn the language" and transition out, so to speak. What you're expressing has been the feeling a lot of us has gotten from friends we have in San Fran or New York or wherever - that MBAs are worthless, and that former military officers are generally risk averse and therefore not good hires in fast moving companies (I don't believe this to be the case at all, btw, but I'm obviously biased). What I'm suggesting is that getting an MBA might have more utility for certain groups of people, and less so for others. Perhaps I'm relying too much on the anecdotal evidence of my circle of friends.
Re: Lecture 3: How to Start a Startup
#75Anywhere to get these lectures audio only?
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#77I share pg's distaste for the mouthful that is "entrepreneurship" ( http://youtu.be/ii1jcLg-eIQ?t=30m35s ). How about resurrecting the root, and using "enterprise" instead? Moving a language as big as English is a Brobdingnagian task, but few people are as well-positioned as pg to (re)introduce "enterprise" as a more economical alternative to "entrepreneurship".
but then what would you call the people doing the enterprise? enterprisers? i'm not necessarily defending "entrepreneur" but one would hope that the alternative would be shorter.
entrepreneur
noun, plural entrepreneurs
1. a person who organizes and manages any enterprise, especially a business,
usually with considerable initiative and risk.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrepreneurRe: Lecture 3: How to Start a Startup
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
but then what would you call the people doing the enterprise? enterprisers? i'm not necessarily defending "entrepreneur" but one would hope that the alternative would be shorter.
You can still use "entrepreneur", which comes from same root as "enterprise" (ultimately from Middle French entreprendre , "to undertake"). entrepreneur noun, plural entrepreneurs 1. a person who organizes and manages any enterprise, especially a business, usually with considerable initiative and risk. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrepreneur