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Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

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Finally those numbers of iPhone activation and mac sold are useful. #1 Mac unit sales http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers... 2010 @ 13662k 2011 @ 16735k 2012 @ 18158k 2013 @ 16341k Total = 64,896,000 #2 iPhone unit sales http://www.statista.com/statistics/232790/forecast-of-apple-... I only take the number from 2013 & 2014 because Apple trend to upgrade fast. 2013 @ 53.6 Million, 2014 @ 63.2…

There's probably a big overlap between iPhone and Mac users, but yes, a big number is going to come out the other end.

Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

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post #66

Finally those numbers of iPhone activation and mac sold are useful. #1 Mac unit sales http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers... 2010 @ 13662k 2011 @ 16735k 2012 @ 18158k 2013 @ 16341k Total = 64,896,000 #2 iPhone unit sales http://www.statista.com/statistics/232790/forecast-of-apple-... I only take the number from 2013 & 2014 because Apple trend to upgrade fast. 2013 @ 53.6 Million, 2014 @ 63.2…

The second hand market for iPhones is quite large in Australia and I imagine its the same elsewhere. Probably not fair to only include those two years iPhone sales.

I would think at least 50% of the older models are either on-sold or the user hasn't upgraded.

edit: UVB-76 has a good point, there is probably a very high percentage overlap.

Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If they provide user-data after being served with a warrant their servers were never accessed, yet the data was provided. Yes, that's true. But if you run an email service that's based in Cupertino, what do you do when served with a lawful search warrant or wiretap order? Say "no," and be found in contempt of court and have all your servers carted away by some men in black so they can find the file they're looking f…

Open source client libraries providing end-to-end encryption and zero knowledge search, would enable a functional e-mail system that operates without any server held keys. You could still NSL a backdoor, but if the service is open source at least there's a chance of the code being audited.

End-to-end encryption will improve things but it is still only as secure as your key management. For email to be convenient you need an easy way to get you friend's public key and easy ways are hard to make secure.

Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

#74
post #63

Yet no comment from them about what being a "provider" under PRISM entails. * "In addition, Apple has never worked with any government agency from any country to create a “back door” in any of our products or services." If Apple provides an interface to request user-data to law enforcement / NSA, that's not a back door in the product or the service . * "We have also never allowed any government access to our servers.…

I find it amusing that people are being outraged at Apple, instead of being outraged at their government. From outside the US, it looks like it became generally accepted that the NSA will spy on US citizens all it wants, unchecked, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Instead, all the rage is getting directed at companies that disclose the information to NSA.

Is this directed at me? I'm not outraged at Apple at all, I think they're trying to play the long game here. I'm just sick of the word games, deception, and legalese from anyone regarding privacy. It's hard enough fully understanding exactly how all the pieces fit together (technology, laws, politics, etc.) for people that are genuinely interested in this, let alone the average consumer. Pointing out loopholes in wording helps to start conversations about what is/isn't happening as well as what could happen/be-abused.

Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

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post #66

Finally those numbers of iPhone activation and mac sold are useful. #1 Mac unit sales http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers... 2010 @ 13662k 2011 @ 16735k 2012 @ 18158k 2013 @ 16341k Total = 64,896,000 #2 iPhone unit sales http://www.statista.com/statistics/232790/forecast-of-apple-... I only take the number from 2013 & 2014 because Apple trend to upgrade fast. 2013 @ 53.6 Million, 2014 @ 63.2…

(116800000+64896000)*0.00385/100 == 6995

Source: http://verizonmath.blogspot.com

Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

#76
post #66

Finally those numbers of iPhone activation and mac sold are useful. #1 Mac unit sales http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers... 2010 @ 13662k 2011 @ 16735k 2012 @ 18158k 2013 @ 16341k Total = 64,896,000 #2 iPhone unit sales http://www.statista.com/statistics/232790/forecast-of-apple-... I only take the number from 2013 & 2014 because Apple trend to upgrade fast. 2013 @ 53.6 Million, 2014 @ 63.2…

It's not 699529, but 6995 since it is 0.00385% (*0.0000385)

Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

#77
post #66

Finally those numbers of iPhone activation and mac sold are useful. #1 Mac unit sales http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers... 2010 @ 13662k 2011 @ 16735k 2012 @ 18158k 2013 @ 16341k Total = 64,896,000 #2 iPhone unit sales http://www.statista.com/statistics/232790/forecast-of-apple-... I only take the number from 2013 & 2014 because Apple trend to upgrade fast. 2013 @ 53.6 Million, 2014 @ 63.2…

0.00385% of 181,696,000 is 6995, not 699529.

Even if we take the total number of iTunes customers (~800 millions), it comes down to 30,800.

Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

#78
post #66

Finally those numbers of iPhone activation and mac sold are useful. #1 Mac unit sales http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers... 2010 @ 13662k 2011 @ 16735k 2012 @ 18158k 2013 @ 16341k Total = 64,896,000 #2 iPhone unit sales http://www.statista.com/statistics/232790/forecast-of-apple-... I only take the number from 2013 & 2014 because Apple trend to upgrade fast. 2013 @ 53.6 Million, 2014 @ 63.2…

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Re: Apple – Privacy – Government Information Requests

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post #66

Finally those numbers of iPhone activation and mac sold are useful. #1 Mac unit sales http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers... 2010 @ 13662k 2011 @ 16735k 2012 @ 18158k 2013 @ 16341k Total = 64,896,000 #2 iPhone unit sales http://www.statista.com/statistics/232790/forecast-of-apple-... I only take the number from 2013 & 2014 because Apple trend to upgrade fast. 2013 @ 53.6 Million, 2014 @ 63.2…

It's a bit less than 4 in 100,000, which I think is an easier number to relate to.
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