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Millions of Americans Get Wages Garnished Over Credit Card Debt

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Re: Millions of Americans Get Wages Garnished Over Credit Card Debt

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"overspend or manage finances poorly" The sort of debt that you're talking about goes way further than the narrow perspective that most take on it. It begins before you are even born, and I think we should all ruminate on that. Let me elaborate a bit, despite consistently getting down mods for expressing this point of view before. The debt begins with the parents that choose to have kids when they are unsure of their…

>>The debt begins with the parents that choose to have kids when they are unsure of their financial wellness and security for the years to come of their child's growth to adulthood. Having children should not be tied to having X amount of money - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8177836

I'm not saying that you should have X amount of money in order to have kids. The statement is "you should have enough money to enable you to take care of your kids into adulthood, because doing so otherwise is negligent". It's not a matter of money, but about lack of negligence and burden.

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They agreed to it when they signed up for the debt. I don't get it, just because someone (corporation/rich person) has lots of money, doesn't mean that not giving them back what they gave you is okay. Not giving them back money that you took is the rip off. Is it nice? Could they be a little more compassionate to peoples' situations? Sure, of course. That's why you have institutions that help people with debt-counsel…

"Agreed" because they had no choice. Profiting from other's debt is simply crooked, but became acceptable in society.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. What is your argument, exactly?

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>>And the money that is being garnished is to pay back the creditor for the money and/or services that the debtor received. It's called justice. I wouldn't describe a big CC corp bringing a citizen to near-financial-ruin as "justice". While you are probably factually right and all the legal procedures more or less followed, this article still highlights a problem with our current system. That it drains people who are…

Exactly. Justice is hardly found in making it impossible for someone to pick themselves back up. It also seems odd to sue someone who may be behind on payments, but hasn't resorted to bankruptcy court to completely eliminate those debts (save college loans, which is a whole other thing). It's hardly surprising that people who have never been down on their luck are the first to turn a blind eye or scolding glance towa…

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Credit is a trap for the unwary and those that fail to plan ahead. I include myself in that group, as I have credit debt. Don't do - save your money.

Been there. I now have no debt after spending 14 years paying it off. 14 years lost.

"14 years lost."

14 years lost how? Do you not have the house/item that you spent 14 years paying off? Or was it credit-card debt?

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The more I learn about what happens to people who are in debt and fall into hard times, the less I want to buy anything with credit.

Important note: If you don't buy anything with credit, you could find yourself unable to sign up for internet service at a new apartment because you're an "unknown credit risk." This happened to me, and I would have been completely screwed if I hadn't had a roommate who did have credit. The ISP was the only service available at the apartment, and they absolutely refused to let me sign up. It wasn't because I had bad…

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Don't forget to fully anticipate the future with perfect accuracy so you can be sure that you'll be certain of your ability to afford kids. Life is uncertain and variable. Demanding that people make choices based on unknowable futures is a bit silly.

"Life is uncertain and variable. Demanding that people make choices based on unknowable futures is a bit silly." And what about demanding that other people pick up your burden if the unknowable future impacts you negatively? It works both ways, you know. You are 100% correct, life is uncertain and variable. And there is no way for anyone to fully anticipate the future with perfect accuracy. However, that right there…

You should think carefully before calling for risk-averse behavior on a site closely affiliated with ycombinator.

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It's hard to see these "millions of americans" as victims in this matter. It's almost always possible to just _not buy_ something if you can't afford it.

If one is unemployed, can't find a job for x amount of time, do you think it is acceptable to use credit cards to survive during that period of time?

I thought at that point you are supposed to max out as many credit cards as possible while making the next Clerks or El Mariachi.

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"overspend or manage finances poorly" The sort of debt that you're talking about goes way further than the narrow perspective that most take on it. It begins before you are even born, and I think we should all ruminate on that. Let me elaborate a bit, despite consistently getting down mods for expressing this point of view before. The debt begins with the parents that choose to have kids when they are unsure of their…

For many, choosing not to have a kid means choosing not to have an abortion. So you appear to be saying that having an abortion is the moral high ground. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I am saying that you shouldn't be surprised when people react vehemently

I don't mean to be facetious here, but babies don't just pop out of nowhere. They have to be conceived through sexual intercourse (generally). Not having unprotected sex is the moral high ground, not abortion. Let's not get into that sticky topic as it's a corner case (rape, etc).

I'm not so sure that that is the sole reason they get touchy about the topic. I think somehow people view having children as some sort of inherent "right" of being a human. Sure, of course no one should stop them from doing it. All I'm saying is that it's not very moral or virtuous to bring a child into this world that you can't reasonably take care of till adulthood.

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"Life is uncertain and variable. Demanding that people make choices based on unknowable futures is a bit silly." And what about demanding that other people pick up your burden if the unknowable future impacts you negatively? It works both ways, you know. You are 100% correct, life is uncertain and variable. And there is no way for anyone to fully anticipate the future with perfect accuracy. However, that right there…

You should think carefully before calling for risk-averse behavior on a site closely affiliated with ycombinator.

Why? Care to elaborate on that?

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You should think carefully before calling for risk-averse behavior on a site closely affiliated with ycombinator.

Why? Care to elaborate on that?

Ycombinator exists to encourage highly risky behavior. Specifically, founding a startup.
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