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China's Island Factory – New islands being made in disputed China Sea

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A nice and neutral report by British, Japanese, etc

South China Sea Has oil , and china will do anything to take over the area. China has been making claims of Arunachal Pradesh India for years, since it has high concentration of gas and shale oil deposits.

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I don't like where this is all going. I've seen too often how seemingly trivial things can lead to all-out wars. Thanks to Iraq and Afghanistan, the US has spent a lot of treasure. The population doesn't have the desire for more war. Now Russia and China are seeing how far they can push. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like we're seeing the beginnings of things that lead to a major war between Russia & China on one side…

I feel like we're seeing the beginnings of things that lead to a major war between Russia & China on one side, and the US on the other.

If you think that's scary, consider the all too plausible possibility of a shooting war between Russia and China over what is currently south-east Russia.

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I've watched with fascination as the Japanese Senkaku islands slowly and gradually came to be labeled 'disputed' in the western media, after China's recent claims. It seems like China has figured out a way to hack the media (the free media outside of China, I mean -- the government there obviously has root on Chinese TV and newspapers). Japanese ownership of this territory is basically as settled under international…

the claims on the South China sea are patently ridiculous, but I don't think it can be compared with the senkaku islands. From what I've read China actually did have better claim over those islands prior to 1884 and immediately after WWII, but didn't assert those claims because well.. the islands were worthless. Now that they've found oil they want to roll back the clock. I think there is a fundamental cultural diffe…

> To the west if you found a piece of land and lived there for 100 years, it's yours - that's how the US was founded after all

Some say the genocide of the natives also helped a lot. These kind of logic just can't be applied to the problems in Asia, where the territory disputes trace back to hundreds of years ago. It's not a west vs east thing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Territorial claims is NOT base on distance.Is Hawaii to far to be a state of the us?

Does the US claim all the ocean between the west coast and Hawaii? No, because it's too far from land.

I am not sure where you are going here. China didn't claim all the ocean either, they want the islands.

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Every time I see discussion about the nine dash line, I can't help but wonder how it can seem sane to anybody that China should have the water rights to an area ~600 km south of what is blatantly Vietnam's coastal waters (and the southern tip of their land) and just barely north of Malaysia's physical territory. I know the correct answer is: China doesn't care, and isn't concerned with reason when it comes to the nin…

Almost exactly the tactic and politics Israel uses. If there's violent conflict, the lesser power is 'terrorist' and this justifies the use of greater militaristic power to squelch the rebellion. If there's no violent conflict the greater power continues to push into the area it wants and plays coy with the politics for recognizing the other state's legitimacy.

why was the above voted down? what's wrong with the parallel with Israel's settlement policy?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is not China, you should see everyone else's claims. Vietnam's claimed and occupied islands are just as ridiculous as China's. In fact ASEAN could not stand together against China in this case is exactly because every country around South China Sea has conflicting claims. BBC is trying to avoid this as much as possible. Facts are hard, Let's just blame bad China.

I was very surprised when I found this out. It makes sense though - just like in any negotiation, you don't start with what you're willing to settle for, you start with what you want. In general, there are always two sides to the coin. Where from an American perspective you see Chinese aggression outwards, if you flip the arrows on the map around, you might notice that from a Chinese perspective, the US is aggressive…

> In general, there are always two sides to the coin

This exactly. Media blames China for everything that went wrong on this planet, and people believe it without thinking twice. It's funny because as a Chinese, I thought we were supposed to be the only one that got brainwashed.

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When did this type of website design become acceptable? I'm starting to see it more and more. It reminds me of when "Multimedia CD-ROMs" first appeared circa mid-1990s, where flashy interfaces were ranked much higher than useability. Please stop it. Give me a webpage with text, and images that I can enlarge when clicked. Thank you.

I for one disagree completely. I think this is great and I really liked the videos, they added depth to the article.

Same, though I think perhaps the ideal solution is somewhere in the middle. If built with it in mind, the page should gracefully degrade to something more basic, where the videos are all optional. I can see how this would put strain on mobile devices(as another comment responding to the parent pointed out)

Re: China's Island Factory – New islands being made in disputed China Sea

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When did this type of website design become acceptable? I'm starting to see it more and more. It reminds me of when "Multimedia CD-ROMs" first appeared circa mid-1990s, where flashy interfaces were ranked much higher than useability. Please stop it. Give me a webpage with text, and images that I can enlarge when clicked. Thank you.

Don't read much BBC I take it? Rarely if ever do they have enlargeable images.
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