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Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by robbyking »

otakucode wrote: post #60
JimboOmega wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's say you're being underpaid; what is the right strategy to take? I don't want to poison the working relationship with people above me.

You are expected to leave the company. Raises are kept far, far below the rate at which employees actually accrue value in order to ensure that employees do not stay at a company for longer than 4 or 5 years. After 4 or 5 years, the gap between what you would make anywhere else and what you can make where you already are is enormous. There is a quote from hundreds of years ago which applies. "Make game of that which…

Not always.

My company offers market rate adjustments (outside of the usual review/salary adjustment periods) to retain experienced developers.

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by untog »

johnward wrote: post #43
untog wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an H1B employee, I can assure you that the amount on my LCA was the same as I was paid. That said, it is important that people understand what these figures are - they are not actual technically salaries.

"That said, it is important that people understand what these figures are - they are not actual technically salaries." Can you explain?

The Wikipedia article probably does a better job than I do, but the LCA is a company submitting what they plan to pay an employee when they hire them. As far as I am aware, if I get a pay rise the company does not need to resubmit an LCA.

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by untog »

datamatt wrote: post #27

Does this include bonuses? Many companies (mine included) pay 40%+ extra in bonuses to bring people to the market level. (site is also down so I can't see)

If your company does that, I very much doubt they also do it for immigrant workers. I doubt the government would approve such an application.

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by s_m »

johnward wrote: post #17
s_m wrote: post #12

i also like http://h1bwage.com/ for this purpose

Is that data also pulled from the DOL? If it is accurate then my employer seems to be a liar.

i don't know but it has matched up with friends' salaries at smaller companies so i trust its data

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by celebdor »

robbyking wrote: post #71
otakucode wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are expected to leave the company. Raises are kept far, far below the rate at which employees actually accrue value in order to ensure that employees do not stay at a company for longer than 4 or 5 years. After 4 or 5 years, the gap between what you would make anywhere else and what you can make where you already are is enormous. There is a quote from hundreds of years ago which applies. "Make game of that which…

Not always. My company offers market rate adjustments (outside of the usual review/salary adjustment periods) to retain experienced developers.

How does such process work? What determines the market rate for the adjustments?

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by killertypo »

sp_ wrote: post #69
shostack wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you clarify on why not? If you get interest and a big news hit, isn't it important to you to capitalize on that as much as possible and leave a good impression so people come back to use your service? If you don't have the funds that's one thing and I get it, but seems like spikes are exactly the kind of thing worth spending on.

The website a weekend project, not something I care for whether people use it. On average it has five to ten visitors a day unless linked to from somewhere big which only happens like twice a year.

put a donate button on the site, seriously - for those one to two times a year!

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by hungrygs »

You call tell how much the H-1B system is being gamed by the Indian in-source companies. They basically never hire software engineers but only "computer programmers" and the ubiquitous "analyst."

Look at this (Salaries in New Jersey? $45,000 for systems analysts?) http://www.h1bme.com/?employer=COGNIZANT+TECHNOLOGY+SOLUTION...

Systems Architects $73k and "programmers" $63k. Not a single software engineer or developer! http://www.h1bme.com/?employer=TATA+CONSULTANCY+SERVICES+LIM...

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by emidln »

seanflyon wrote: post #67
vampirechicken wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it takes bonuses to get you to market rates, then you're still underpaid.

This is not true. You are only underpaid if you compensation is below market rate compensation. If I got paid $1 plus a $1 million bonus I would not be underpaid. You should consider how much risk you are willing to take and how likely it is that you will get a smaller (or larger) than expected bonus.

You also need to consider the tax implications of bonuses vs salary. At least where I live, bonuses are heavily taxed (~40%)

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by hungrygs »

cedsav wrote: post #68
MaxwellM wrote: post #5

Lynn, FYI - these numbers reported to the DoL are not necessarily accurate and thus should only be used as a ballpark estimate. They are likely to be overestimates of actual numbers. Having seen H1B document submitted to the DoL, I know that firms misrepresent these numbers. An H1B is granted to immigrants for positions that ostensibly couldn't be filled by US citizens, this is rarely the case. Firms have to show tha…

You have to meet or exceed prevailing wages for the area/position. The reason is to make sure you're not underpaying foreign workers at the expense of local US candidates. We sponsored H1B applicants in the past, and the numbers were reviewed by the lawyer who took care of the application. We also had to post the opening notice internally, with the salary offered. And finally, as others have stated, the number is kno…

Yes, but if you hire software engineers and label them as computer programmers (see my post here), employers completely side step the "meet or exceed prevailing wages" requirement.

In fairness, blue chip US tech companies don't do that.

Re: Find salaries paid at companies using foreign worker data

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Post by michaeltoth »

emidln wrote: post #78
seanflyon wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not true. You are only underpaid if you compensation is below market rate compensation. If I got paid $1 plus a $1 million bonus I would not be underpaid. You should consider how much risk you are willing to take and how likely it is that you will get a smaller (or larger) than expected bonus.

You also need to consider the tax implications of bonuses vs salary. At least where I live, bonuses are heavily taxed (~40%)

In the United States bonuses are taxed as ordinary income.

Companies may withhold a higher percentage than a standard paycheck, but this is generally because they treat the bonus as if you will continue to receive that income throughout the entire year, and withhold at the corresponding higher rate. When taxes are filed you will receive a refund for any taxes overpaid.

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