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“Theater” vs. “Theatre”: The Great New York Times Language Swap

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post #23

Funny, how years get born and then forgotten over time: http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=2010.2000.1990.1980.19... There is a little anticipation in the preceding years, then a big explosion in the year itself and then slow decline in the following years.

The secondary peaks 2-4 years out are interesting. Or perhaps it's better conceptualized as troughs the year after. Wonder what the reason is for that?

Elections?

Re: “Theater” vs. “Theatre”: The Great New York Times Language Swap

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post #23

Funny, how years get born and then forgotten over time: http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=2010.2000.1990.1980.19... There is a little anticipation in the preceding years, then a big explosion in the year itself and then slow decline in the following years.

The secondary peaks 2-4 years out are interesting. Or perhaps it's better conceptualized as troughs the year after. Wonder what the reason is for that?

The availability of the substitute "last year" for "2013"?

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#73
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These words aren't German borrowings, so that isn't related at all. The ae in this class of words is from Latin æ (ultimately from Greek αι). The ae->e shift was an attempt at spelling simplification, to remove some vestigial Latinisms, but only partially succeeded.

Confusingly, though, German does render Latin æ, œ as ä, ö ( ästhetisch , ökonomisch )

True, although I believe than in itself is only a slightly older (circa 1900) spelling reform. In older German books, you see Aesthetik/aesthetische/etc. instead. Lots of borrowing and adaptation...

Ngrams: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Aesthetik%2C%C...

Random example: http://books.google.com/books?id=7ZpJAAAAMAAJ&printsec=front...

Re: “Theater” vs. “Theatre”: The Great New York Times Language Swap

#74
post #41

I was just puzzling about this the other day. I live in the USA and I've always spelled the word as theatre. Only recently, I've noticed that spellcheck is balking at this. It's somewhat comforting to know that my way of spelling the word isn't wrong and I don't really mind that my country wants to spell it differently.

> It's somewhat comforting to know that my way of spelling the word isn't wrong It might even be more comforting to know that your way is actually more correct, in a traditionalist sense: the Anglo-French theatre comes directly from Greek théatron (through Latin thĕātrum ). Somehow "your country" is bent on morphing the word for whatever reason, similarly to what they are doing to center / centre .

Or somehow Britain and its overseas colonies didn't have any standardized spelling for words for a long time, and so spellings fell in and out of favor and whatever was in vogue in each place at the time the earliest widely-accepted dictionaries were compiled became the "right" spelling for that location.

(speaking of which, Commonwealth English has a stronger tendency to hypercorrect and create false spellings which actually differ from the imagined root; "foetus" is the classic example, since the Latin root was actually just "fetus")

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Another difference in usage between British English and American English: In the US, you go to a movie theater to see a film. Or you go to the theater to see a play. In the UK, you go to a cinema to see a film. Going to the theatre is understood to mean going to see a play/musical/performing arts.

In the US you go to a movie theatre to see a movie.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The secondary peaks 2-4 years out are interesting. Or perhaps it's better conceptualized as troughs the year after. Wonder what the reason is for that?

The availability of the substitute "last year" for "2013"?

Thats clever! The longer a year has gone, the less likely you will say "last year", "one year ago", "two years ago" and rather go for the years "full name" like "2014". This could be a reason for the revivals.

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post #10
post #2

I think I found another one, and it looks like it swapped twice: http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=Aesthetic.esthetic Edit: Another: http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=Archaeology.archeology A very early switch: http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=Toward.towards Another: http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=catalogue.catalog And another: http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=centre.center A weaker one: http…

http://chronicle.nytlabs.com/?keyword=disk.disc

What this shows is the old NY Times house style oddity where they described CDs as "compact disks" rather than using the trademark Compact Disc. (Pre-1980, it is not clear to me.)
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