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Tesla Model III to challenge BMW 3 Series
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Re: Tesla Model III to challenge BMW 3 Series
#72FYI, the Model 3 images used by @AutoExpress were mock-ups based on their own speculation. https://twitter.com/TeslaMotors/status/489200528908226561
I can't imagine that the real Model III would anything like this. I doubt that Tesla would make another car that looked so much like the Model S. I expect it to look far more distinctive.
Re: Tesla Model III to challenge BMW 3 Series
#73If you notice, III is 'E' rotated counterclockwise by 90 degrees - subtle but genius response to Ford's "hey Tesla, you cannot use Model E. If you do, we will sue you!"
Are you sure it's not rotated clockwise?
Re: Tesla Model III to challenge BMW 3 Series
#74A $35,000 price (before presumed tax rebates) would really make this car a very much more main-stream vehicle rather than a "Luxury Car". If they can pull off the whole charger network expansion thing, this will be Tesla's bread and butter car for a while.
This model will certainly allow Tesla to access a new and much larger group of potential customers, but I doubt it will be a "main-stream" vehicle. $35,000 is decidedly in the realm of high-end luxury cars (this car is still going to be far more expensive than the entry-level models from Mercedes, Audi and other prestige brands) and is still inaccessible to the vast majority of buyers, albeit not necessarily as exclu…
As someone who is very conscious of personal finance, I'd never spend $35k on a car (and something tells me this will be more than that in reality, especially with upgrades). Then again, I'm also the sort of person who chooses to live in an apartment instead of a house just so I can walk to work rather than commute.
That said, it never ceases to flat out amaze me how much others are willing to spend on cars. I imagine you're underestimating how many people buy cars in this price range who make half as much as the typical engineer or lawyer. Given this, I'm willing to bet folks who really have no business in a $35-45k vehicle will flock to it anyway.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
This model will certainly allow Tesla to access a new and much larger group of potential customers, but I doubt it will be a "main-stream" vehicle. $35,000 is decidedly in the realm of high-end luxury cars (this car is still going to be far more expensive than the entry-level models from Mercedes, Audi and other prestige brands) and is still inaccessible to the vast majority of buyers, albeit not necessarily as exclu…
People shop on monthly payments. Say that gas is $5/gallon in three years (and I'm pretty sure that's conservative). For 1500 miles a month at 30 mpg, that's $250 a month in gas. Subtract that plus maintenance from your payment and you're getting into econobox territory. I think $35,000 will be a pretty big deal.
If you are going to consider the gas savings, you still need to remember that there are also electricity costs as well.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cue link to a Tesla Model S beating a BMW M5. http://youtu.be/vvHTN0Yi1t4 You might want to do a testdrive yourself..
I test drove the Telsa S (along with several other cars in the general $100k range) and found the acceleration to be astounding, but the handling to be uninspired and the interior actually felt cheap to me. There's nothing like the immediate acceleration from the Tesla, but the M5 just seems like a better overall car today. The M5 is a total beast, but still incredibly comfortable. Wouldn't be hard for Tesla to chang…
I actually agree with you on the interior not beeing at the same level as other highend cars such as the M5, or the Mercedes S Class. They have however spoken about an upgrade of the seats for the Model S, late this year, which might help it along. Here in Denmark gas cars are taxed 180% so a 85KW Model S is 610.000DKK and a BMW M5 is 1.600.000DKK. That makes the choice easy..
Re: Tesla Model III to challenge BMW 3 Series
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
This model will certainly allow Tesla to access a new and much larger group of potential customers, but I doubt it will be a "main-stream" vehicle. $35,000 is decidedly in the realm of high-end luxury cars (this car is still going to be far more expensive than the entry-level models from Mercedes, Audi and other prestige brands) and is still inaccessible to the vast majority of buyers, albeit not necessarily as exclu…
People shop on monthly payments. Say that gas is $5/gallon in three years (and I'm pretty sure that's conservative). For 1500 miles a month at 30 mpg, that's $250 a month in gas. Subtract that plus maintenance from your payment and you're getting into econobox territory. I think $35,000 will be a pretty big deal.
but nissan is already promising a 200 mile car for half the model 3 price... your argument is valid for prius today, not for model 3 whenever it's launched.
Re: Tesla Model III to challenge BMW 3 Series
#78I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a 4-wheel-drive Tesla model for those of us who live where it snows copiously... but that price tag might be a game-changer regardless. That's going to open up a whole new demographic for them.
I thought Teslas were already super popular in Norway?
Yes, currently second most selling car (after nissan leaf) or something like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5PqPeOPT0 <- winter review in Norway.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
as a car guy, you should know that the p85+ is not on par with either the m5 comp or the e63 amg s. it's not as fast to 60mph/100kph and is not nearly as fast in the quarter mile. it's also significantly cheaper than either of those. the p85+ is 300 pounds heavier and produces 150hp LESS horsepower and torque than either of those cars. do the math. the new m5 and e63 are rip-your-face-off-fast. they run 11 second qua…
Cue link to a Tesla Model S beating a BMW M5. http://youtu.be/vvHTN0Yi1t4 You might want to do a testdrive yourself..
Tesla Model S beating M5... You serious?
Re: Tesla Model III to challenge BMW 3 Series
#80I thought for a minute that the site was an Onion-esque parody site considering the first couple paragraphs deal with how they tried to name their models after the word 'sex'.
For reference and fun, Musk speaking about the trademark. http://youtu.be/MBItc_QAUUM?t=38m30s BTW, they have 'y' as well. :)
after that he gives more details on his design for a vtol supersonic aircraft, which is awesome