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Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

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I'm interested in Raspberry Pi. I bought one before. It's just a small PC, use one hand you can hold it. But when you want to Raspberry to do some complex works, it let you down. I want to know where does Raspberry Pi can work well?

I've used one for real time artworks in a gallery via OpenFrameworks.

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

#72
post #40

Oh man, I was really hoping for a better CPU. The current one is just so dang slow.

Slow and proprietary, which is not a great combination... there's a lot of interesting new ARM SoCs from China that are coming out, like the Allwinner A3x series (quad A7s, >1GHz). It would be pretty unlikely for one of those to show up in the next Pi though; if anything, it'll probably be another Broadcom.

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

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post #33

What's the same: - Same Broadcom BCM2835 Chipset - Same 512MB RAM - Same full size HDMI port - Same 10/100 Ethernet port - Same CSI camera port and DSI display ports - Same micro USB power supply connection What has changed: - Now comes with 4 USB ports so you can now connect more devices than ever to your Raspberry Pi. - There is a 40pin extended GPIO so you can build even bigger and better projects than ever before…

Right now it's possible to back feed power with a powered hub instead of using the micro USB connection. I'd like to see the schematic to find out if that's still possible, but I can't find one yet.

Here you go (schematic): https://learn.adafruit.com/introducing-the-raspberry-pi-mode...

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

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post #40

Oh man, I was really hoping for a better CPU. The current one is just so dang slow.

Slow and proprietary, which is not a great combination... there's a lot of interesting new ARM SoCs from China that are coming out, like the Allwinner A3x series (quad A7s, >1GHz). It would be pretty unlikely for one of those to show up in the next Pi though; if anything, it'll probably be another Broadcom.

Ebon Upton [0], one of the main folk from the Raspberry Pi foundation works for Broadcom and does SoC. So odds are slim considering that connection probably enabled them to get extreme price arrangements otherwise not doable.

[0] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_Foundation

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

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post #60
post #35

I still can't see why would anyone buy one except as one of those toys that you buy and then gets tossed in the closet. 10 years ago I could see the appeal, but now? The robotics, home automation, and weekend project use cases seem like would be better served by a $5 microcontroller. Some projects, such as the weather station, justify the use of a full-fledged OS, but with the cost of buying an existing, proven, weat…

My colleague uses it to run a python script to periodically download and store virtual currency prices. As I understand it, it is useful if you want to download stuff from the internet in certain time intervals.

There are roughly a billion ways to "download stuff from the internet in certain time intervals", but if for some reason the machine needs to be physically present, and dedicated to that task, then a Raspberry Pi is probably the cheapest way to do it.

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

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For people saying they want a faster revision - do remember there are other computers in this form factor. I recently got an Odroid U3 and am very happy with it. Of course, it's $65, not $35. I tried setting up owncloud, nginx, a web server, etc. on a Pi and it couldn't handle it (everything ran, but terribly), the Odroid does well.

I still like the Pi, though. There are some people for whom saving $30 really does make a big difference, and if the goal is learning how computers work, having lots of GPIO pins, etc, the Pi is still awesome.

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

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post #35

I still can't see why would anyone buy one except as one of those toys that you buy and then gets tossed in the closet. 10 years ago I could see the appeal, but now? The robotics, home automation, and weekend project use cases seem like would be better served by a $5 microcontroller. Some projects, such as the weather station, justify the use of a full-fledged OS, but with the cost of buying an existing, proven, weat…

I built my own home security system with a Pi as the brains to control camera streaming and do face recognition using OpenCV. Is there a $5 microcontroller that can do all that? Admittedly, it's a big load on the Pi and I'm looking for more powerful single board computers, but that again eliminates $5 MCUs. I have another Pi working as a drop-in replacement wifi router that routes data via a USB data dongle in case m…

That sounds awesome! Would you mind sharing your project?

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

#79
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have the Raspberry Pi, mainly because, since I develop embedded software for a living, I have an endless supply of development boards I can hack on at work and am free to take home (during those evenings when I am not so fucking tired of flipping bits that I don't even want to SEE C code!), but : * A platform with less legacy crap than x86 is wonderful for learning about OS development. I don't know how the P…

> A platform with less legacy crap than x86 is wonderful for learning about OS development. I don't know how the Pi fares for this, with Broadcom's chip and all, but if I had the free time to hack an OS in my spare time, not dealing with all the thirty year-old cruft nor shedding a gazillion EUR on a PowerPC system would be ideal. Actually I'd say the x86/PC is probably one of the best-documented and most stable plat…

> Actually I'd say the x86/PC is probably one of the best-documented and most stable platforms out there to learn on at the moment, precisely because it has been around for so long.

Unfortunately, that also means there's a lot of inconsistency, conflicting advice and outdated code that beginners take for granted. It's quite annoying.

Re: Introducing Raspberry Pi B+

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I built my own home security system with a Pi as the brains to control camera streaming and do face recognition using OpenCV. Is there a $5 microcontroller that can do all that? Admittedly, it's a big load on the Pi and I'm looking for more powerful single board computers, but that again eliminates $5 MCUs. I have another Pi working as a drop-in replacement wifi router that routes data via a USB data dongle in case m…

That sounds awesome! Would you mind sharing your project?

I've been planning to write about them on a blog, but haven't started yet. Hopefully sometime soon.
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