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Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by BugBrother »

matznerd wrote: post #68
hvs wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nicotine is sort of a mixed bag, but it isn't really the bad part of tobacco products. Cigarettes are generally bad for you because of all of the other things in them besides nicotine. The bad part of nicotine is that it is so highly addictive, but it's health benefits for things like ulcerative colitis and other afflictions are becoming better studied.

The ingredients in cigarettes are what actually make nicotine addictive...alone, it can actually be beneficial to the brain

>> The ingredients in cigarettes are what actually make nicotine addictive

Uh, that sounds wrong.

"Snus" users get addicted. That is tobacco, even if it isn't burned. But afaik, users of e-cigarettes also get dependent -- that isn't tobacco.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by casualobserver »

BugBrother wrote: post #72
matznerd wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ingredients in cigarettes are what actually make nicotine addictive...alone, it can actually be beneficial to the brain

>> The ingredients in cigarettes are what actually make nicotine addictive Uh, that sounds wrong. "Snus" users get addicted. That is tobacco, even if it isn't burned. But afaik, users of e-cigarettes also get dependent -- that isn't tobacco.

There's a bunch of on-going research on nicotine gum dependence too. I was a participant in a study for this.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by casualobserver »

cbsmith wrote: post #30
pcrh wrote: post #27

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I doubt that cinnamon is cheaper than sodium benzoate.

Hey, we can use actually data for this! http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/price-of-sodium-benzoate.htm... http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cinnamon-price.html Looks like the prices are surprisingly similar, though cinnamon is, if anything, more expensive. Additionally, I'd imagine that if sodium benzoate is the active ingredient, you'd need less of it to get the job done.

Just in case anyone is thinking of purchasing through Alibaba:

Alibaba is notorious for scammers. I know two startups that have lost around $20,000 each on material suppliers listed there who send something cheaper (usually completely different) than what has been requested upon payment. It's usually the orders that are around $1000 that Chinese chemical/raw materials supply companies selectively scam on.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by DiabloD3 »

matznerd wrote: post #69
Someone1234 wrote: post #24

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Are you seriously suggesting that people should go buy a bunch of junk from the organic food shops just in case one of them turns out to be good for you in the future? Adversely, what happens if one of them turns out to be a carcinogen or otherwise something that adversely affects health? Your mom isn't wise, she just threw enough unproven stuff down her kid's throats so that it was inevitable that one of them one da…

This is a really offensive comment... Plants create compounds to battle pests and radiation from the sun. A lot of these compounds such as anthocyanins and phenols are extremely beneficial to healthy humans. Definitive science is actually still catching up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthocyanin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenol

What he said isn't offensive at all. The mothers that make their kids eat all sorts of unproven remedies, trying to stay ahead of proven science, are just as bad as the ones that refuse injections, trying to stay behind proven science.

Down vote me all you want, but there is a reason why science exists and has rigorous testing methodologies.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by tootie »

nate wrote: post #21
fragsworth wrote: post #7

It's sort of gimmicky to say that Cinnamon does this, because it's known to be sodium benzoate that causes this effect. In 2012 they discovered that sodium benzoate has an effect on Parkinson's disease proteins: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21701815 . This new study is, at least, a confirmation of the older study, and is also an attempt to use it to treat the disease.

Interesting. I didn't realize cinnamon metabolized to sodium benzoate. I've actually been trying to avoid sodium benzoate, especially in soft drinks because of worry what that preservative could possibly be doing to us (especially in the presence of vitamin c) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_benzoate But I've been purposefully eating a bunch of Cinnamon. It's hard to reconcile sometimes what might be good for me…

There is a craze at least my part of the world over eating roasted seaweed. Mosly Korean-style, but it's the same seaweed you find across most of East Asia. 10-20 years ago, MSG allergies were one of the first food allergy crazes and every wanted MSG-free food. MSG as an additive is harvested primarily from this type of seaweed. That's why the seaweed is so savory.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by epaladin »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #10
Havoc wrote: post #3

I'm starting to think I should munch a mix of powders every morning. Cinnamon, tummeric, garlic etc.

The bioavailability of curcumin (found in turmeric) is much better when taken along with piperine (found in black pepper). Also, welcome to the club: http://www.reddit.com/r/supplements

I've been mixing cinnamon, ginger, and tumeric in oatmeal and juice blends every morning for a while, but hadn't heard about the interaction with piperine. Looks like that information was primarily based on one study in 1998, but it probably can't heard too much. Added black pepper this morning. Thanks for the tip.
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