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Re: Google, Gmail experiencing downtime worldwide

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Exactly. With feigned 'outrage' at Arrington for all his Google Voice love as of late.

Are you suggesting that cell towers never fail?

they do fail, often, in fact, but the difference is that its a decentralized system and several towers being down isn't a big deal, its just a normal day. They contract with many carriers to carry data and often a single cell site is multihosted so any one carrier switches to another provider, who now has them over a barrel so charges them more. Cell tower failures affect the mobile carriers profits, and not necessarily the users service.

Re: Google, Gmail experiencing downtime worldwide

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The difference is that you can know what's wrong and fix it (assuming you're able). Also, over the past 2+ years, my mail server has had less downtime than GMail, and any outages were easy for me to diagnose and fix. I like feeling in control over critical pieces of my business (at least as much as possible - I'm in no position to build my own DC for instance).

Google is a better sysadmin than I am. I assume most people are in the same boat.

Running a mail system for 10 people is a lot easier than running one for a few million.

Re: Google, Gmail experiencing downtime worldwide

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US date order always makes me laugh - it's like people looked at date order and thought if the day comes before the month that will be the European way, lets flip it. Then they realised that would be YYYY-mm-dd and so be ISO standard order, dang can't have that, hey lets have a mixture. I know it didn't happen this way but some sort of logical order would be good.

A logical justification could be found for any order. It's just arbitrary.

It would be good to hear a logical justification for the mm-dd-yyyy. I'm not sure I can come up with one. It makes it hard to search and it doesn't follow any sequential order. yyyy-mm-dd actually goes up by one each day. Try it next time you have to number give files a date stamp and you'll find it makes your life a lot simpler.

Re: Google, Gmail experiencing downtime worldwide

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US date order always makes me laugh - it's like people looked at date order and thought if the day comes before the month that will be the European way, lets flip it. Then they realised that would be YYYY-mm-dd and so be ISO standard order, dang can't have that, hey lets have a mixture. I know it didn't happen this way but some sort of logical order would be good.

A logical justification could be found for any order. It's just arbitrary.

Of course I meant a justification for the mixed up ordering as being of greater utility (more easily parsed, understood, less confused, more easily read, better sorted, more standardised with other users) than the other common orderings.

Let the word go forth ... your logical justification please?

Re: Google, Gmail experiencing downtime worldwide

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US date order always makes me laugh - it's like people looked at date order and thought if the day comes before the month that will be the European way, lets flip it. Then they realised that would be YYYY-mm-dd and so be ISO standard order, dang can't have that, hey lets have a mixture. I know it didn't happen this way but some sort of logical order would be good.

I've taken to writing %d %b %Y when possible. It's unambiguous and provides sane ordering. And somehow I find it easier to map from %b to an ordinal than vice versa.

Thats: %d - 2 digit day number by month; %b - 3 letter month name; %Y - 4 digit year CE; for those who don't recall so well.
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