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Change.org Petition: Tell media not to use 'Hacker' when they mean 'Cracker'

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Re: Change.org Petition: Tell media not to use 'Hacker' when they mean 'Cracker'

#72
Hackers can be either white hats or black hats (or something in between: grey hats). The moral ambiguity is part of what makes the appellation interesting.

This whole attempt to make "cracker" happen feels like a bunch of people desperate to call themselves "Hackers" and feel cool, but without scaring off boring BigCorp employers.

Re: Change.org Petition: Tell media not to use 'Hacker' when they mean 'Cracker'

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, sorry guys - I know I'll get crap for this, but: The word is the clue as it implies 'invasive force'. Any other meaning is only going to be accepted when enough of you agree 'it is so'. The original meaning (and I've always known it as such, 30+ years) is perfectly outlined by the paragraph above. It does not refer to white-hat stuff. The original word is 'hack': cut with rough or heavy blows. hack off the dead…

You rightly should catch the said substance for this. It's a misuse of the etymology. Hack does refer to cutting with rough or heavy blows. Centuries ago, "hackers" referred to people who made rough-shod furniture with an axe. That was a hack back then. In WW2, "hackers" were mechanics in the US Navy who hacked off the broken parts of airplanes to weld together the working parts of broken planes. That was also a hack…

O bugger... ok then, I give up :)

Re: Change.org Petition: Tell media not to use 'Hacker' when they mean 'Cracker'

#74
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, sorry guys - I know I'll get crap for this, but: The word is the clue as it implies 'invasive force'. Any other meaning is only going to be accepted when enough of you agree 'it is so'. The original meaning (and I've always known it as such, 30+ years) is perfectly outlined by the paragraph above. It does not refer to white-hat stuff. The original word is 'hack': cut with rough or heavy blows. hack off the dead…

Actually, that definition matches the other usage, too: people force a system to do things it isn't supposed to do; they "hack" at it until it works. (But I agree that "hacker" has meant invading systems as long as it has meant anything else)

Fair enough: It will ultimately depend on what the majority decide on. It's all just another perspective I guess.

Re: Change.org Petition: Tell media not to use 'Hacker' when they mean 'Cracker'

#75
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, sorry guys - I know I'll get crap for this, but: The word is the clue as it implies 'invasive force'. Any other meaning is only going to be accepted when enough of you agree 'it is so'. The original meaning (and I've always known it as such, 30+ years) is perfectly outlined by the paragraph above. It does not refer to white-hat stuff. The original word is 'hack': cut with rough or heavy blows. hack off the dead…

Actually, that definition matches the other usage, too: people force a system to do things it isn't supposed to do; they "hack" at it until it works. (But I agree that "hacker" has meant invading systems as long as it has meant anything else)

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