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Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Anyone have the code somewhere? I'll host it. Edit: Isn't this it? https://github.com/popcorn-time/popcorn-app What exactly is the problem?

This seems to be the latest one: https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-app

Wow, thanks. I just cloned, built, and ran it on Mac. It really works well. That was too easy.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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What would happen if suddenly, a very big number of developers (I really mean it... like thousands of developers) began to contribute to such a project. Would hollywood start to sue everyone? And what if some of them would be some "rockstar developers" (like very important for the software world)... yeah... I'm just dreaming, but it would be like the equivalent to a mass protest, that they just wouldn't be able to ha…

It's an existential threat to Hollywood's current business models. They would sue a very big number of developers. Most of whom would fold about 30 seconds after getting the legal paperwork.

The few who remained would get crushed. Viacom's YouTube suit ran for 7 years before settlement. And Hollywood is practiced at fucking with the little people; you can see Buchwald v Paramount for an example of how they operate, and one of the rare times they lost: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchwald_v._Paramount

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Can you submit any evidence that a TV is anything more than a bigger computer screen? My TV has HDMI inputs; if I wanted to move my computer, I could hook my computer up to the TV. Apple has an accessory where the primary selling point (for me) is that it can bounce output from a computer to a TV. There's an entire family of computers where the entire point of them is to be hooked up to TVs and used as media centers.…

> Saying that popcorn-time isn't napster for movies because people don't watch movies on their computer, they watch them on their tv isn't really different from saying that napster isn't napster for music because people don't listen to music on their computer, they listen to music on their stereo. This was my entire point. People didn't just listen to their Napster-downloaded music on their computer, they listened to…

People don't watch movies in the car, so that part doesn't matter. If you're trying to compare the ease of burning to portable media, tossing an mpeg on a thumb drive is easier and basically as cheap as buying CDs were back in the day. If your only point is that the movie is playing on the screen in the office and not the screen in the living room, I think you're vastly overestimating how much people care but it's not the sort of point I think I can find data to back up, so I'm willing to agree to disagree.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Thats a strange syntax for an identifier, anyway running it with sudo makes the segfault go away for me so I guess it's some permission problem.

Sudo doesn't help for me. It looks like it's getting into to the wrapped C function, then it segfaults when trying to read from the input buffer. Edit: If you're interested in pursuing this further, please get in touch via my website, which is on my profile. Cheers!

I contracted you over the website.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Popcorn Time is _this_ close to being the Napster of Film, Hollywood must be literally shitting bricks. Someone has probably taken it upon himself to threaten these devs in a nasty (and perhaps illegal) way. Surely the story will come out eventually. In the meantime, Popcorn Time is fully available to download. So I'm not sure what genie they're putting back in the bottle....

> Someone has probably taken it upon himself to threaten these devs in a nasty (and perhaps illegal) way. Someone , you say? How about just stating the fucking obvious: That "someone" is The US Government , and this is just standard gag-order fare. "Stop developing the app, or we will fuck up your life. Oh, and don't say a word about this to anyone, or we'll fuck up your life." This insanity is obviously unconstituti…

It was probably Hollywood's lawyers, and it is likely constitutional.

They can't shut somebody up for their opinions. But if you do something illegal or actionable (in this case, contributory copyright infringement), you may prefer shutting up to accepting the full legal consequences of your actions.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Doesn't it seem like TF could simply create their own Repo, build it and start developing on it and see what comes out of the woodwork? Seems like its pretty easy to bait these mysterious forces.

Yes, I was also wondering if FSF or someone like that could take the project themselves. Let's see who comes knocking. It wouldn't be the first time FSF "facilitated piracy" by building tools like that (see GnuNet, Mediagoblin, etc), so I doubt they would be too afraid to try it.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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It's bizarre to me that something awful is apparently being threatened against the developers, and yet new forks are not banned from github.

I think Github doesn't have to worry here. Service providers who host content for others generally have safe harbor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicatio...

If people were uploading copyrighted material, then Github would be obliged to honor takedown notices. But here, the code's under some sort of public license, so the takedown process wouldn't apply.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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> Someone has probably taken it upon himself to threaten these devs in a nasty (and perhaps illegal) way. Someone , you say? How about just stating the fucking obvious: That "someone" is The US Government , and this is just standard gag-order fare. "Stop developing the app, or we will fuck up your life. Oh, and don't say a word about this to anyone, or we'll fuck up your life." This insanity is obviously unconstituti…

It was probably Hollywood's lawyers, and it is likely constitutional. They can't shut somebody up for their opinions. But if you do something illegal or actionable (in this case, contributory copyright infringement), you may prefer shutting up to accepting the full legal consequences of your actions.

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Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Popcorn Time is _this_ close to being the Napster of Film, Hollywood must be literally shitting bricks. Someone has probably taken it upon himself to threaten these devs in a nasty (and perhaps illegal) way. Surely the story will come out eventually. In the meantime, Popcorn Time is fully available to download. So I'm not sure what genie they're putting back in the bottle....

I don't see why Popcorn time doesn't offer legitimate ways to purchase the content. For an honest TV index with multiple streaming sources, check out http://episodeslist.com It's updated daily.

That doesn't look that bad. Now if it had a personalizable lists with information when what show (that's still running) airs, it would be better. Sadly I still haven't found anything better than ezTV and I don't even use their torrent links…
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