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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#71

Post by munger » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:21 PM UTC

Rackspace cloud customer here… These Linode upgrades are very tempting to entice me to switch.

I get I might not be their target market (small business with about $1000/month on IaaS spending) but there are a couple things preventing me from doing so: 1) $10/month size suitable for a dev instance. 2) Some kind of scalable file storage solution with CDN integration – like RS CloudFiles/Akamai or AWS S3/Cloudfront or block storage to attach to an individual server.

I guess you get what you pay for… infrastructure components and flexibility AWS > RS > Linode > DO which roughly matches the price point.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by jasonlotito » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:22 PM UTC

mwexler wrote: post #41

There's similar and then there's alike. I guess it makes comparison easy, but imitation certainly must be the sincerest form of flattery: Compare the look and feel of https://www.linode.com/pricing/ and https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/

And DO's looks like a million other plan pages that already exist. It's not some unique design to DO.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#73

Post by svmegatron » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:25 PM UTC

nivla wrote: post #12

Awesome News. Competition really pushes companies to please their customers. Ever since Digital Ocean became the new hip, Linode has been pushing harder. My experience with them has been mixed. Forgiving their previous mishaps and the feeling that the level of Customer Service has gone down, they have been decent year long. I wouldn't mind recommending them. [Edit: Removed the bit about DigitalOcean Plans. If you hav…

It seems to be the Optimizely js, which could mean they are A/B testing something about their pricing grid.

I'd really like to know the results of the test.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#74

Post by ff_ » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:26 PM UTC

Wow, that's beautiful. Currently I'm a DO customer (10$ plan), and if they had a 10$ plan I'd make the switch instantly.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:27 PM UTC

mimiflynn wrote: post #17

nivla wrote: post #12

Awesome News. Competition really pushes companies to please their customers. Ever since Digital Ocean became the new hip, Linode has been pushing harder. My experience with them has been mixed. Forgiving their previous mishaps and the feeling that the level of Customer Service has gone down, they have been decent year long. I wouldn't mind recommending them. [Edit: Removed the bit about DigitalOcean Plans. If you hav…

https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/

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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by growt » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:28 PM UTC

kyrra wrote: post #55

I forgot to benchmark the disk before I upgraded but here are some simple disk benchmarks on an upgraded linode (the $20 plan, now with SSD) $ dd bs=1M count=1024 if=/dev/zero of=test conv=fdatasync 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 1.31593 s, 816 MB/s $ hdparm -tT /dev/xvda /dev/xvda: Timing cached reads: 19872 MB in 1.98 seconds = 10020.63 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 2558…

Here is my $5 digitalocean slice (created a few months ago):

  # dd bs=1M count=1024 if=/dev/zero of=test conv=fdatasync
  1024+0 records in
  1024+0 records out
  1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 3.7375 s, 287 MB/s

  # hdparm -tT /dev/disk/by-label/DOROOT

  /dev/disk/by-label/DOROOT:
  Timing cached reads:   16394 MB in  2.00 seconds = 8205.62 MB/sec
  Timing buffered disk reads: 868 MB in  3.00 seconds = 289.17 MB/sec

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#77

Post by madsushi » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:28 PM UTC

Why do I pay Linode $20/month instead of paying DO $5/month(1)?

Because Linode treats their servers like kittens (upgrades, addons/options, support), and DO treats their servers like cattle. There's nothing wrong with the cattle model of managing servers. But I'm not using Chef or Puppet, I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary server better than any other VPS host in the world.

(1) I do have one DO box as a simple secondary DNS server, for provider redundancy

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#78

Post by andypants » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:29 PM UTC

endijs wrote: post #18

Most interesting part in this great upgrade is that they went from 8CPU setup to 2CPU setup. But yeah - 2x more RAM, SSDs will guarantee that I'm not going to switch anytime soon. Sadly I need to wait a week until this will be available in London.

They did upgrade the cpus though - "Linodes will now receive Intel’s latest high-end Ivy Bridge E5-2680.v2 full-power server-grade processors."

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by arb99 » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:31 PM UTC

madsushi wrote: post #77

Why do I pay Linode $20/month instead of paying DO $5/month(1)? Because Linode treats their servers like kittens (upgrades, addons/options, support), and DO treats their servers like cattle. There's nothing wrong with the cattle model of managing servers. But I'm not using Chef or Puppet, I just have one server that I use to put stuff up on the internet and host a few services. And Linode treats that one solitary ser…

DO?

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#80

Post by beering » Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 3:32 PM UTC

munger wrote: post #71

Rackspace cloud customer here… These Linode upgrades are very tempting to entice me to switch. I get I might not be their target market (small business with about $1000/month on IaaS spending) but there are a couple things preventing me from doing so: 1) $10/month size suitable for a dev instance. 2) Some kind of scalable file storage solution with CDN integration – like RS CloudFiles/Akamai or AWS S3/Cloudfront or b…

I agree with your point about block storage - with Linode, there's a hard limit on how much hard drive space you get on any single server, which makes it a poor choice for anything that requires a lot of storage space (databases, file servers, etc.).

Unlike Amazon, you don't have any good options for increasing your storage space on Linode using network block storage, unless you somehow run another Linode and NFS them together. Being able to launch a moderately priced server with hundreds of gigs of spinning rust on AWS is still a nice option to have.