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Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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is it useful for DOSbox?

Useful ? The next three weeks of HN will be: MS-DOS cross-compiled to JAVASCRIPT. MS-DOS running in pure CSS. Word for Windows as pure HTML 5 ( element). DOOM RUNNING NATIVELY on NATIVE MS-DOS on a PEBBLE.

It would be so much terser and more elegant in Haskell.

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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What is funny is that MS-DOS 6.0 source code had already been leaked. Granting permission to IBM to make OS/2 source code available would be nice too BTW.

OS/2 is owned by Serenity/eComStation these days and they seem still to be doing active development on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EComStation

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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Windows source code was available for a long time. My university had access to Win 2000 and some latter versions. Nobody was interested since most kernel hackers used BSD and later Linux.

This is true. It leaked from Mainsoft a few years back. Was great fun reading through the NT4 and 2k source. It has also been useful for working out what the hell goes on inside Win32 on occasion.

While there was a leak, the source code was available to industry partners and educational institutions legitimately.

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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Don't patents only last 15-20 years?

Right, any patents from 1983 and 1991 have expired. Besides which, I don't think Microsoft had any patents in 1983. P.S. Google Patents is useless for answering this question. "Referenced by" is included in the search, so any patent from 1983 that is ever referenced by a Microsoft patent (from any year) shows up in the results.

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Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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503, any mirror?

Here you go: * https://mega.co.nz/#F!jAhUzLCC!2i187wbXL7WUF3587YaMfw * http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/61DF3FLY3Z3pnWTHQMzcRQ SHA-256: ed62a98801f15cf9b7f229e33c7413d1ff9d1e1e91e9aa2468742589b65e156d msdos.zip b424c3c1c1d7083cc74c9b1b77823eb511739c4237cb7a2f1650b75391f43ff6 Word-1.1a-CHM-Distribution.zip

Those are not legal, redistribution is not permitted by the license.

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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Not only are you not allowed to distribute it by the license, actually distributing it would get you sued for patent violation. Using anything you find in the code will probably get you sued for patent violation, too. EDIT: I can just imagine a future lawsuit: A: Did you read the MS-DOS source code released by Microsoft on XX? We have logs to show you downloaded it. B: Yes, but that has nothing to do with this lawsui…

Please up vote the point of patents lasting 15-20 years and down vote this confused claim. Software patents are bad enough without gratuitous fear-inducing claims added.

Indeed. Judges do not rule on guilt in civil procedure. They rule on responsibility and damage. Damaging MS by looking at this very old source code and MS proving damage is not very likely.

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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I wonder if they deleted all the "fucks" out of it. The Win2K source code was good for a laugh.

May I ask how common is this uncouth behaviour? I do remember this [0] being posted a few months ago, apparently "penguin" is an expletive (what the fuck?).

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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Microsoft Research does some really cool stuff. Do they really work for the same company as the people who make Windows and Office? I can't imagine two more diametrically different organizations.

Bell Labs was founded by Ma Bell, it's hard to top that and MSR does not come close.

I think it is hard to top what AT&T did with Bell Labs. They had a government mandated monopoly with tons of money to fund basic scientific research and ended up with a few Nobel prizes in the process. I think the more apt organization for the OP however would be Xerox PARC.

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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Not only are you not allowed to distribute it by the license, actually distributing it would get you sued for patent violation. Using anything you find in the code will probably get you sued for patent violation, too. EDIT: I can just imagine a future lawsuit: A: Did you read the MS-DOS source code released by Microsoft on XX? We have logs to show you downloaded it. B: Yes, but that has nothing to do with this lawsui…

MS-DOS is maybe the ugliest operating system I ever had the displeasure of using. There's very little to learn from operating system design point of view in there, and better sources are available under more permissive licenses -- ie open source licenses. It looks like a PR stunt to me.

They are not meant to teach OS/software design. Instead they are meant to teach (personal) computing history.

What you are saying is like saying that putting Ford Model T blueprints to museum is useless because we have far better sources today to study car mechanics from.

Re: Microsoft makes source code for MS-DOS and Word for Windows available to public

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is it useful for DOSbox?

Useful ? The next three weeks of HN will be: MS-DOS cross-compiled to JAVASCRIPT. MS-DOS running in pure CSS. Word for Windows as pure HTML 5 ( element). DOOM RUNNING NATIVELY on NATIVE MS-DOS on a PEBBLE.

Don't forget the inevitable "Flappy Word" games!
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