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Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by ojilles »

Stratoscope wrote: post #70
leejoramo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will ignore what I do for server backups, and I will focus on my MacBook. I run my web development business and my personal life off of this system. The software I use: CrashPlan, Arq, DropBox, Carbon Copy Cloner. CrashPlan: I have backing up my data, configuration /Users, /Library. I have a bunch of regex restrictions to not backup various files such as caches, VMWare images, etc. Crashplan backups up to their clo…

> Currently, the biggest pain point for me in backups is VMWare images. I currently have 4 Linux and 3 Windows images on this system, and they can cause a huge amount of data needing to be backed up every time they are used. This is where a sector-by-sector backup program shines. I don't know what to recommend on the Mac, but on Windows, ShadowProtect is pretty wonderful. It backs up only changed sectors - update 10M…

Why not just setup backups from inside the VM's, while having the base VM image backed up somewhere (once) as well?

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by ojilles »

sreitshamer wrote: post #48
egonschiele wrote: post #44

Could you change the upgrade system on macs please? I got a message telling me to install the latest update -- so I did. I was on a paid version of Arq 3, and now I'm on a trial version of Arq 4 :-/

Didn't the upgrade text explain that it was a paid upgrade? I tried to make that as clear as I could. If you want to stick with Arq 3 you can. Delete Arq 4. Download Arq 3 ( http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/Arq_3.3.4.zip ). Launch Arq 3. You'll have to find your old backup set under "Other Backup Sets", select it, and click the "Adopt This Backup Set" button. Sorry for the hassle.

By the way, the license file I got was named: .syncPhotosLicense Adding it to Arq 4 seemed to work fine though. Was a bit confusing.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by abcd_f »

rsync wrote: post #66

As always, we're very happy to see that in addition to S3/Glacier/DreamCloudStartupOfTheWeek, Arq supports plain old SFTP. This means that, of course, it works perfectly with rsync.net and that we have yet another chance to offer the HN readers discount, which you may email us to find out about.

Please try and contain yourselves when you see "backup" on HN.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by digitalengineer »

pudquick wrote: post #62

Can someone using S3 Glacier as a backup destination please provide some concrete costs? Even if no retrieval is involved, I'd just love to see: "I pay $XYZ and am backing up ###GB worth of data." I see the calculator floating around in the comments, but it's not formatted in a backup-friendly fashion / use case (ie. set storage size with XYZ% churn for changed files, or continuously expanding snapshots with aged sna…

Just got the AWS bill. I accidentally started backupping my entire MacBookPro (200 something Gig) and only found out about half way through. Began a new session for the 'Documents' folder only (about 20 gig). The bill was $ 2.03 But Amazon will charge me about $ 0.10 for every Gig I want to retrieve (Glacier). ARC support was quick and good by the way.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by digitalengineer »

jhart3333 wrote: post #63
pudquick wrote: post #62

Can someone using S3 Glacier as a backup destination please provide some concrete costs? Even if no retrieval is involved, I'd just love to see: "I pay $XYZ and am backing up ###GB worth of data." I see the calculator floating around in the comments, but it's not formatted in a backup-friendly fashion / use case (ie. set storage size with XYZ% churn for changed files, or continuously expanding snapshots with aged sna…

It's cheap until you have to grab a bunch of stuff back all at once. Then they have you by the short hairs.

I think if your house/company burned down and you loose yor main PC and the external backup, you'd be glad to pay 0.10 cents for every Gigabyte you can retrieve.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by chmars »

Two questions for Arq users:

1. In former versions, it was difficult to see what was actually part of the backup. Has that changed?

2. Is there any reliable way of calculating how much an Arq backup will cost? Storage costs are easy to calculate but with Amazon S3, changes etc. are a major cost factor.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by chmars »

leejoramo wrote: post #22
OWaz wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mind elaborating what your total backup solution is? I've been looking at Arq but am not aware of what it does not do and what I would need to fill in the gaps. Currently I rely on time machine backing up to three different drives and keeping one of those drives in the office.

I will ignore what I do for server backups, and I will focus on my MacBook. I run my web development business and my personal life off of this system. The software I use: CrashPlan, Arq, DropBox, Carbon Copy Cloner. CrashPlan: I have backing up my data, configuration /Users, /Library. I have a bunch of regex restrictions to not backup various files such as caches, VMWare images, etc. Crashplan backups up to their clo…

@leejoramo:

> DropBox: I have many of my documents stored in Dropbox with the PackRat feature to keep copies of every version and deletion.

Aren't you worried about the lack of encryption?

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by saurik »

digitalengineer wrote: post #75
jhart3333 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's cheap until you have to grab a bunch of stuff back all at once. Then they have you by the short hairs.

I think if your house/company burned down and you loose yor main PC and the external backup, you'd be glad to pay 0.10 cents for every Gigabyte you can retrieve.

Or potentially higher than 20x that much, if you are downloading it quickly (are you actually aware of the Glacier pricing model? where did you obtain $.10/GB?).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7337181

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by m_mueller »

I like the idea of using Glacier as a Backup solution for ones devices. However one thing worries me: Looking at the Glacier pricing table[1] there is a section 'Request pricing'. This looks to me like there is a price of 5.5 cents per 1000 upload request. Considering Arq will upload multiple times an hour, this looks like it could amount to quite a bit. With two uploads per hour I arrive at 5$ per month, but there could be significantly more uploads. Even 5$ would already be a 50% price increase compared to only the storage pricing for 1TB of data.

Could anyone clarify whether my calculation is wrong?

[1] https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/pricing/

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by larme »

m_mueller wrote: post #79

I like the idea of using Glacier as a Backup solution for ones devices. However one thing worries me: Looking at the Glacier pricing table[1] there is a section 'Request pricing'. This looks to me like there is a price of 5.5 cents per 1000 upload request. Considering Arq will upload multiple times an hour, this looks like it could amount to quite a bit. With two uploads per hour I arrive at 5$ per month, but there c…

Glacier should be used for data that won't be changed frequently (e.g. purchased music/movies). Hence you can backup to glacier daily.

S3 is more suitable for things you are working on like codes.

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