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#71
Maybe your design was the best out of the bunch, maybe it wasn't. All I can say is be honest with yourself and about your abilities.

Also, glad you admitted to your mistake, and kept the post up. In your shoes other kids would've deleted it and made their twitter profile private.

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#72

Why is he so super elitist about "hand coding" a website? I doubt he ever manually allocated memory in his life. Being elitist always sucks no matter how awesome you are... but come on we are talking about a webdesign competition, not some x86_64 assembly hacking event. This is ridiculous.

Sublime is probably closer to Dreamweaver than Notepad. I think people who code in Notepad or Vim are nuts.

Sure, it's 'hand coded', but there's some point where your ethics are compromising your productivity.

It'd be like not using a framework because you want your site to have a 'raw HTML' feel.

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#73

I'm a fool and this should be taken as self expression. Don't take this as me hating on anyone. I'm an idiot for posting this.

You come off as extremely pretentious and arrogant in this blog post. HN is normally quite supportive of younger developers, but if they act and present themselves in the manner you do then can't expect anyone's opinion of you to do anything but plummet. The design I have seen on your porfolio at http://5lin.es/portfolio/ is kinda ok but very samey and in no way entitles you to feel as though you are better than anyb…

And in no way was I comparing the works on that link to anything else as it would be irrelevant to the situation.

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#74
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I still can't tell if this is satire or not...

Well taken into consideration that this was written over two and a half months ago while I was mad at the time (at this moment I'm not), yes. Satire all around.

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#75

> I was eager to find out how they made their site. I had asked booth groups and they each answered, “Dreamweaver.” “Oh. Nice.”, I thought, trying to hold back any laughter that I may have had. I was also asked the same question in return, saying “I hand coded it.” I was given the deer in the headlights stare. I don’t know if I received this look because they had no idea what I meant/said, or if they were in such awe…

I know right.

I think this post and the responses have given you a lot to mull over - at the end of the day I believe it was a good idea to post this because the feedback you're getting (mine was, admittedly, negative) could really help shape you to become better as an engineer on a team in your future endeavors. You're taking some lumps but at the end of it I think you'll take it as a big learning experience - good luck to you in the future!

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#76

Why is he so super elitist about "hand coding" a website? I doubt he ever manually allocated memory in his life. Being elitist always sucks no matter how awesome you are... but come on we are talking about a webdesign competition, not some x86_64 assembly hacking event. This is ridiculous.

Yes, this is ridiculous on many levels, so let it be.

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#77

So, maybe I have too much faith in people here, but I think this post is satire. While it's an extreme example, the attitude the author espouses- that there is one right way to do things and anyone doing otherwise is an idiot -is definitely not unheard. Hell, I've been plenty guilty of it myself, looking down my nose at someone using Eclipse as I struggle to remember 8 button long Emacs shortcuts.

At least someone here gets the gist... Thank you for realizing what I was trying to portray.

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#78
post #71

Maybe your design was the best out of the bunch, maybe it wasn't. All I can say is be honest with yourself and about your abilities. Also, glad you admitted to your mistake, and kept the post up. In your shoes other kids would've deleted it and made their twitter profile private.

Right you are. I have taken down the post so that I can further explain myself.

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#79

I'm a fool and this should be taken as self expression. Don't take this as me hating on anyone. I'm an idiot for posting this.

Don't worry about it man! To me, your biggest mistake here was not throwing up screenshots. Could've flipped the whole tone of this thread from a car crash into an actual hate-fest for crap design.

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#80

Why exactly is Dreamweaver such a bad tool to use, especially with it's code editor that (personally of course) seems to be hands and feet better than the competition. I can see why designers would dislike the visual editor side, but who really uses it for serious work anyway, PHP syntax highlighting is far better in Dreamweaver, as is HTML. its really a personal choice that the developer has to make, and if it works…

It's definitely possible for people to have dev environments that are objectively insane. Dreamweaver isn't too crazy though — some people use Vim.

I've not really used Dreamweaver in years, but I assume most people disable the visual editor? Unless it's possible to preview using Chrome rendering and get some sort of LiveReload setup going? Does it even have a built in server, or does it just show static sites?

The concept of Dreamweaver isn't a bad one, it's just their technology and standards support that's all mangled.

Someone could probably create an awesome Dreamweaver-like integrated IDE using a mashup of Blink, nginx, Git, FTP, and Sublime Text. It'd make your local environment loads easier to set up.

My combination of tools works great right now, but feels a bit cobbled together. Step one in web dev is figuring out a solid setup — took me years to get to a point where I'm really efficient. It's probably a barrier to entry. A single integrated thing, that followed standards, would definitely make it easier for new people to learn.

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