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Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by resoluteteeth »

gcb0 wrote: post #53
bananacurve wrote: post #51

Would you pay an extra $8/mo to instantly have your jailbreak on every update? Then buy a developers license.

Nobody here or on that site have any use for rooting (jailbreak is such a silly term). They just want to be cool. Cory doctoraw, ifixit ceo... It's just a publicity stunt. And everyone in this thread? They keep dumping their money happily on the latest device. Even though ios7 does zero more than a rooted ios6 (the only new feature that is not aesthetic is the control bar, which is better on ios6 with unofficial code…

When I had an iPhone 4 I had a use for rooting: to run an ssh server so I could easily transfer files from/to my iphone without dealing with itunes or other special software.

However, it turned out that the real solution was just to switch to an Android phone that not only allows me to use my phone as a drive when plugged in, but also doesn't have the software restrictions that made running a daemon impossible in the first place.

I haven't really kept up with ios so this might not be a problem now, though.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by luuio »

bane wrote: post #63
mortenjorck wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While there’s still about zero percent chance of it happening in the near term, I have to think that long-term, Apple will port Gatekeeper to iOS. It’s a near-ideal balance of security on OS X: Non-technical users can stay in the walled garden of the Mac App Store, semi-technical users can allow signed binaries, and power users can run whatever they want. I work in the mobile healthcare space, and right now, we’re st…

To be honest, in custom software spaces like yours, I'm surprised that iOS was ever a platform of consideration.

because the consideration was "oh, everybody has and is familiar with iOS devices, we'll waste less time training them and they won't make as much mistake poking around."

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by r00fus »

charleslmunger wrote: post #67
comex wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to switch from an iPhone to a Galaxy S4 for a trip recently. Though there were some upsides, I lost count of how many points of inferiority and annoyance I noted while using it. I'm more than a little biased, but if I can have both what I perceive as a far better phone and openness, I don't want to settle for one or the other. Then again, I haven't used a jailbreak for anything significant in a long time, so fo…

TouchWiz is terrible. It's bloated, riddled with security holes, and doesn't follow the android UI guidelines. Users with TouchWiz are missing out on the the majority of design improvements android has had in the last 3 years. Try out an AOSP based build (maybe the ROM from the google play edition?) on your phone. It's like night and day.

I've been trying out a Google Nexus 5 for the past few weeks and I'm not terribly impressed.

The bluetooth connection seems a bit better, and the screen is bigger, but usability wise, iOS7 is better.

I don't want most of the customizability (i.e., separate home screens/themes) and the keyboard is simply harder to use than iOS.

The whole OS feels laggy (still) even with almost-comparable hardware to the latest-get iPhone.

The only reason I want jailbreak is for something like F.lux/Twilight on iOS.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by rsynnott »

mortenjorck wrote: post #55
phaer wrote: post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

While there’s still about zero percent chance of it happening in the near term, I have to think that long-term, Apple will port Gatekeeper to iOS. It’s a near-ideal balance of security on OS X: Non-technical users can stay in the walled garden of the Mac App Store, semi-technical users can allow signed binaries, and power users can run whatever they want. I work in the mobile healthcare space, and right now, we’re st…

> Non-technical users can stay in the walled garden of the Mac App Store, semi-technical users can allow signed binaries, and power users can run whatever they want.

As the signed binary and app store only is the default, it's unlikely that non-technical users will actually change it.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by neakor »

Why does it matter if it's "open" or not? Stop trying to break other people's stuff already. We all want things our own way, so why not respect other people's ways as well.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by baddox »

phaer wrote: post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

I bother for two main reasons. Firstly, I vastly prefer the hardware of iOS devices over the competitors. Secondly, the software openness isn't that big of a deal—I still prefer stock (non-jailbroken) iOS to stock Android (I confess that I haven't extensively tried Windows RT or any other alternatives).

Jailbroken iOS is just icing on the cake. When there's a major iOS upgrade that causes me to lose my jailbreak, I lose a few niceties (the biggest of which is the ability to "try," as in pirate, applications), but it's not a big deal.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by finnw »

JamesArgo wrote: post #12
SmileyKeith wrote: post #3

Personally I've found the reasons to jailbreak have decreased more and more over time. A perfect example for me is Control Center replacing what I used SBSettings for.

I tried to find an iOS bitcoin wallet. Turns out, Apple pulled them all from the store because they have mobile payment ambitions - and one doesn't let predators into ones own garden. The walled garden is beautiful, but innovation is relentlessly weeded out by its tenders. I much prefer iOS, but I was seriously creeped out by their anti-competitive practices. I can't run the software I wish to, so I'm going to buy an…

> ... Apple pulled them all from the store because they have mobile payment ambitions - and one doesn't let predators into ones own garden.

And yet Pingit is still in the app store. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/barclays-pingit/id496552142

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by jevinskie »

phaer wrote: post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

Security research is my primary reason.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by RandallBrown »

bane wrote: post #63
mortenjorck wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While there’s still about zero percent chance of it happening in the near term, I have to think that long-term, Apple will port Gatekeeper to iOS. It’s a near-ideal balance of security on OS X: Non-technical users can stay in the walled garden of the Mac App Store, semi-technical users can allow signed binaries, and power users can run whatever they want. I work in the mobile healthcare space, and right now, we’re st…

To be honest, in custom software spaces like yours, I'm surprised that iOS was ever a platform of consideration.

4 years ago what was the only decent tablet option? The iPad.

Apple's solution for running business apps and distributing them outside the app store is actually not that bad.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by JamesArgo »

finnw wrote: post #77
JamesArgo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to find an iOS bitcoin wallet. Turns out, Apple pulled them all from the store because they have mobile payment ambitions - and one doesn't let predators into ones own garden. The walled garden is beautiful, but innovation is relentlessly weeded out by its tenders. I much prefer iOS, but I was seriously creeped out by their anti-competitive practices. I can't run the software I wish to, so I'm going to buy an…

> ... Apple pulled them all from the store because they have mobile payment ambitions - and one doesn't let predators into ones own garden. And yet Pingit is still in the app store. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/barclays-pingit/id496552142

Search for it on your iPhone. It's no longer there.
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