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TV Is Dying, And Here Are The Stats That Prove It

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Re: TV Is Dying, And Here Are The Stats That Prove It

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Post by protomyth »

mstrem wrote: post #56
bd wrote: post #10

The demise of TV in a single chart: http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2013-10-21/less-time-i... Younger the viewers, less TV they watch.

Well, that is not the full story though... I expect older people to watch more TV. All my grand parents basically sit in front of the TV all day... I would expect I would watch a lot more if I was older currently, even simply because I would have a lot more free time.

My parents have the TV on as long as they are awake - for a lot of that time, it is just background noise.

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Post by k-mcgrady »

purringmeow wrote: post #36
bluthru wrote: post #5

Making me turn on the TV at a specific time and date to watch something is such alien notion to me at this point. All of these shows worry about schedules and what's on other networks, but that's eventually not going to matter at all.

And that's not all! Insane copyright prevents a lot of people from legally watching popular series. I am in Europe and there is no legal way for me to watch say "The Walking Dead" or any other series. So what do I do when I don't get proper service? Piracy - it gives me on demand HQ content. I wonder when TV networks will move into the 21st century. The next network delivers cheap, on demand HD content worldwide will…

>> "I am in Europe and there is no legal way for me to watch say "The Walking Dead" or any other series."

You can't buy the box set anywhere? You can download it from iTunes or another legal service? I'm in Europe too (UK to be specific and can do both of those things).

I'm guessing what you really mean is you can't watch it when you want to, you have to wait a little while longer.

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Post by thisiswrong »

pan69 wrote: post #22
hkmurakami wrote: post #6

TV may die, but content will not. TV shows may die, but our need for storytelling will survive.

I don't think the article is disputing that. It's about the medium on which those stories are told that is changing.

Yet its is important to bring this up. The MAFIAA/government will always manipulate this argument to give the illusion that content and culture is dying. Thus the MAFIAA gets to keep its propaganda monopoly and the government its censorship.

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Post by VLM »

mstrem wrote: post #56
bd wrote: post #10

The demise of TV in a single chart: http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2013-10-21/less-time-i... Younger the viewers, less TV they watch.

Well, that is not the full story though... I expect older people to watch more TV. All my grand parents basically sit in front of the TV all day... I would expect I would watch a lot more if I was older currently, even simply because I would have a lot more free time.

As an older guy I can assure you personally that when I have free time, the last thing I want to do with it is watch TV. Too much living to do.

I do agree with your observation about old people and TV in that my experience with elderly ancestors is an extremely high correlation between watching TV all day and death within the next couple years. When you can't do anything anymore physically but open your eyes, the socially accepted dumping ground (at least on a small scale) is in front of a TV. I believe this explains the peculiar claim that 80 year old people "watch" 16 hours per day of TV on average. This does not explain the claims about 50 year olds.

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Post by GhotiFish »

VLM wrote: post #64

One truism of humanity is if you free a person, they try to enslave themselves as hard as they can. Sounds dumb, but its a wise observation of an older guy. Applied thru all aspects of life. Anyway the relevance to this discussion is as TV dies out, what will be the analogy of the Janet Jackson superbowel half time show? Who will legions of mindless drones mail (email?) complaints to, regarding reddits gonewild showi…

It will be interesting to watch, for sure. Informing weirdos and prudes that their opinions are irrelevant and they don't matter is one of 4chans specialities. So I'm definitely looking forward to it 20 years down the road.

The tide seems to be that, all things considered, the internet will have free speech. Actual, real free speech.

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Post by krapp »

purringmeow wrote: post #36
bluthru wrote: post #5

Making me turn on the TV at a specific time and date to watch something is such alien notion to me at this point. All of these shows worry about schedules and what's on other networks, but that's eventually not going to matter at all.

And that's not all! Insane copyright prevents a lot of people from legally watching popular series. I am in Europe and there is no legal way for me to watch say "The Walking Dead" or any other series. So what do I do when I don't get proper service? Piracy - it gives me on demand HQ content. I wonder when TV networks will move into the 21st century. The next network delivers cheap, on demand HD content worldwide will…

Funny enough I get Doctor Who and Top Gear the same way, being an American, so I guess it all balances out....

Re: TV Is Dying, And Here Are The Stats That Prove It

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Post by VLM »

_wp3r wrote: post #34
ljd wrote: post #27

I cut the Time Warner Cable cord in Q3 as well. We have an Apple TV which plays Netflix, Hulu, PBS, Rented Movies, Music and YouTube. After 2-3 months of us never switching off of the Apple TV HDMI port, I told the kids I was going to cancel cable which they could never find anything of substance to watch anyway and they didn't even put up a fight. None of us watch sports so there was virtually no reason to keep cabl…

Over the air has been exceedingly hit or miss for me also. Even after the equipment the actual delivery seems very scattered. I know in my head that the delivery of digital with correction should be better than analog, but the experience simply is not. I am not a electrical engineer, so can anyone shed light on why the range for channels on digital is so much lower than it was with analog, also is weather much more i…

Lots of VHF broadcasters switching to UHF as part of the transition? Not all have done so, but "many" have.

All things being equal, an ancient coax cable with X milliliters of water contamination or Y amount of corrosion will have more loss at UHF than VHF. Pretty much everything is more critical at UHF. Even antenna aiming.

The other way its a problem, which is actually pretty funny, is marketing of "HDTV" antennas where HDTV means UHF only, which works great if all your local broadcasters moved to UHF with the transition; As you can imagine a UHF antenna doesn't work so well if you live in an area with one of the few remaining VHF-Lo band transmitters which you "need".

To say this is a local issue would be an understatement. I'm sure you'd get a better answer from a neighbor than HN.

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Post by 11thEarlOfMar »

I am not too worried about the cable companies. They've made the shift from television to Internet and phone just fine.

Television, however, is going through the same metamorphosis that music, retail sales and newspapers are enduring.

I'm not worried about the music industry. They've made the shift from vinyl to cassette to CD to digital, and may owe a huge debt of gratitude to Jobs.

However, newspapers and brick & mortar retail have been decimated.

So the question is, will TV go the way of music? Or newspapers?

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Post by VLM »

protomyth wrote: post #71
mstrem wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, that is not the full story though... I expect older people to watch more TV. All my grand parents basically sit in front of the TV all day... I would expect I would watch a lot more if I was older currently, even simply because I would have a lot more free time.

My parents have the TV on as long as they are awake - for a lot of that time, it is just background noise.

That's what I mean about bogus stats. I never power my phone off (why would I?) and its got 3G internet everywhere I go, therefore on the graph by the same logic I have 24 hours of mobile use per day.
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