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Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by pygy_ »

dmgd wrote: post #60
wozniacki wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong again. Considering only the dimensions, the second generation iPad managed a meager trimmings of 4 mm, 2 mm and 4.6 mm in length, width and thickness for a total of 10.6 mm. That pales in comparison to a total of 18.9 mm in combined length + width + thickness savings, in the current iPad Air. So your elusive measure of "perceived bulkiness" falls short of explaining how iPad Air is not the greatest leap in term…

both manners and the concept of "volume" seem to have escaped you. using figured from ohwp's response above: iPad : 6186 cm3 iPad 2 : 3944 cm3 = saving of 2242cm3 iPad 3 : 4213 cm3 iPad 4 : 4213 cm3 iPad Air: 3060 cm3 = saving of 884cm3 (vs smallest other iPad, the iPad 2)

In both cases a diminution of ~30% (35 and 27, respectively).

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by dzhiurgis »

simonh wrote: post #56
InclinedPlane wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either way someone suffers, kind of a silly dichotomy. Especially when modern android smartphones, let alone tablets, have 2GB of RAM. Also, Apple has the power to mandate that all apps have to run well on whatever old hardware Apple wants to keep supported. There's no good excuse.

Android devices switched up to high ram co figs because they had to. A typical Android device runs a ton of stuff in the background such as Facebook uploaders, sync services, location trackers, carrier services, manufacturer UI shells and crapwear, etc you just don't get on iOS devices. To be fair, a lot of these services can do useful stuff and the freedom to run stuff like that is one of the reasons some people lik…

That's interesting. However I've read that iOS doesn't have built in garbage collector, automatically forcing you to write apps that consume less memory.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by smackfu »

ScottWhigham wrote: post #62
ohwp wrote: post #59

I liked to know more about the weight per size, so here a small list: iPad : 680 g / 6186 cm3 = 0.1099 g / cm3 iPad 2 : 601 g / 3944 cm3 = 0.1523 g / cm3 iPad Air: 469 g / 3060 cm3 = 0.1532 g / cm3 iPad 3 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3 iPad 4 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3

I'm trying to understand how you would use that information. Other than "product dimensions" and "product weight", why do you need to calculate/know more? It's interesting and all - I just don't guess I see what the value of knowing the g/cm3 is.

Density determines how heavy something feels.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

devcpp wrote: post #54
tedunangst wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they ship an ipad with 2GB, developers will start to use 2GB and then apps will run like crap on older models. Then people will complain about forced obsolescence. (Source: the dozens of comments I've read from people complaining their 512MB iOS device has been rendered useless.)

I don't think so, otherwise we'd still have black and white operating systems, because colors add so much memory usage. If Apple doesn't let its apps get more intricated, competitors will do it first...

Maybe, but it's the balance of what you can do rather than any individual item on a specification, particularly when you're comparing devices with other different hardware elements running different operating systems.

Plus developers have got the increased power of the 64-bit A7 and the features of the M7 chip to keep themselves entertained so it's not as if Apple are treading water.

Besides do we really want to recreate the "requires a minimum of X Gb RAM to run" small print world of Windows games?

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by nicholassmith »

ScottWhigham wrote: post #63
yalogin wrote: post #4

Looks like Apple hit home runs with all of their updates this cycle. Interestingly I haven't seen this universal praise for any other Apple update cycle before. Unfortunately I am not in the market for any device right now.

I would disagree that they hit homeruns on everything. The most obvious "single" would be the iPhone 5C which, by all accounts, is underselling expectations significantly. As a consumer, Apple "lost the game" by not introducing an iPhone with a larger screen size. Why are HTC and Samsung doing so well in the phone market? Because they offer what clearly millions of people want: a 5" screen. If Apple had introduced a…

"The most obvious "single" would be the iPhone 5C which, by all accounts, is underselling expectations significantly."

No one has proven this, it's just a rumour circling the internet. Anecdotally I've seen plenty 'in the wild', but potentially not as many as the 5S (hard to tell aside from the gold), so it's unclear whether it's been a sales disappointment.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

Groxx wrote: post #40
product50 wrote: post #21

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Have you tried/used the iPad Air? How can you pass a judgment on something based on reviews when the reviewer himself is asserting something opposite to you?

How can you pass judgement on anything you haven't experienced yourself?

Do you able to venture an opinion on whether it would be enjoyable or not to have your testicles slammed in the door of a car?

You can question the validity of the opinion but we all extrapolate on what we do know and fill the gaps in with views and information borrowed from others and reasonable assumptions.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by davidmr »

> It seemed like a foregone conclusion that the 10-inch tablet market was done for, with all interest and excitement shifting to smaller, but equally capable 7 or 8-inch tablets instead.

Did I miss something? I've been happy with my 10" ipad for years and, especially with the 2048x1536 display, have never felt the need to go smaller. I know most of the android tablets are smaller, but I've been completely satisfied. I suppose I've never used the ipad mini, so it might be all that and a bag of chips.

Is this really the trend? It wouldn't be the first to pass me by, but I'm still surprised.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by mcculley »

davidmr wrote: post #77

> It seemed like a foregone conclusion that the 10-inch tablet market was done for, with all interest and excitement shifting to smaller, but equally capable 7 or 8-inch tablets instead. Did I miss something? I've been happy with my 10" ipad for years and, especially with the 2048x1536 display, have never felt the need to go smaller. I know most of the android tablets are smaller, but I've been completely satisfied.…

I completely agree. I love my current iPad and don't want a smaller form factor for what I use it for (e.g., reading and small amounts of typing, Duolingo every morning). I already have a smaller form factor device that is wearable but painful to read or type on for bigger jobs (my phone) and a larger device with a full size keyboard for doing lots of typing and serious work (laptop). I welcome the iPad Air because it is the device I enjoy the most but faster and lighter.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by mcculley »

Segmentation wrote: post #20

I wasn't planning on buying an iPad Air, as I'm still happy with my iPad 2, but that comparison chart on the first page really sold me that the iPad Air is the first real upgrade to the iPad 2. My only complaint is I want high capacity, and I find it so ridiculous that to go from 16GB to 64GB I have to pay $200 extra. Two hundred dollars for 48GB. I think the last time I paid that much for 48GB was ten years ago. Edi…

It's not just storage upgrade options that keep Apple from adding external storage, I think. With the way the sandbox works, how would apps be allowed to read/write to an external device? That would allow them to escape the sandbox and do IPC, wouldn't it?

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by ableal »

ohwp wrote: post #59

I liked to know more about the weight per size, so here a small list: iPad : 680 g / 6186 cm3 = 0.1099 g / cm3 iPad 2 : 601 g / 3944 cm3 = 0.1523 g / cm3 iPad Air: 469 g / 3060 cm3 = 0.1532 g / cm3 iPad 3 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3 iPad 4 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3

> 0.1542 g / cm3

An excelent flotation device, if a tad small ...

I guess the volume is off by one order of magnitude - a paper notepad of 20 x 30 x 1 centimeters would be 600 cm3.

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