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Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Interesting that iPad sales were flat year over year. I would have thought it would have contracted without new iPads launched. Also the big increase in iPhone sales year over year jives with what Asymco has posted about Android peaking. The easy growth from feature phones being replaced by low-end Android devices is over.

"I would have thought it would have contracted without new iPads launched." Say what? That product line is only 3 or 4 years old and it's already flat? That was very surprising to me and very disappointing. Isn't the iPad now the new iPod? Only that I think took 7 years or more before it went flat. Apple's now a growth company only based on one single product that comes in two flavors and the entire rest of the tech…

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Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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I think a lot of this is expected no? The mobile market is maturing, and they are making less profitable versions of their products. Its interesting to see how investors react to Microsoft and Apple who are both hugely profitable, and then some start ups(ahem, twitter, pinterest, snapchat) with no proven business model get huge valuations. I know that investors are trying to predict the market, but the second a hugel…

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Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Samsung has not 'dethroned' Apple in profits" "...someone pointed out that Kovach was comparing Apple's after tax net income to Samsung Electronics pre-tax operational income..." typical mistake... http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/07/28/apple-samsung-profits...

? I'm using net income, Samsung has 9.6 operating profit. Why are you showing an article from last quarter?

Operating Profit = Also known as "earnings before interest and tax" (EBIT) or "operating income"

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/operating_profit.asp

OOOOPPS!! :)

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Apple deferred nearly a billion dollars in revenue due to the switch to free software. http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/28/apple-says-future-versions-...

I know that accounting types like to use 'deferred', but to be clear Apple abandoned profit from software.

They did not defer it to a later date, they recategorised software development as a cost center.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

? I'm using net income, Samsung has 9.6 operating profit. Why are you showing an article from last quarter?

Operating Profit = Also known as "earnings before interest and tax" (EBIT) or "operating income" http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/operating_profit.asp OOOOPPS!! :)

What does that have to do with net income lol.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Operating Profit = Also known as "earnings before interest and tax" (EBIT) or "operating income" http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/operating_profit.asp OOOOPPS!! :)

What does that have to do with net income lol.

Wow do I have to explain it to you?

Samsung reports operating profit = Also known as "earnings BEFORE interest and tax" (EBIT) or "operating income"

Apple reports net income = AFTER TAX net income

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